1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:10,700 --> 00:00:12,115 [text flickering] 4 00:00:12,219 --> 00:00:15,187 [tense sparse music] 5 00:00:19,122 --> 00:00:22,919 [upbeat acoustic folk music] 6 00:00:23,471 --> 00:00:25,818 - [Tom] My name's Tom; that's me. 7 00:00:25,922 --> 00:00:27,130 I was born in Yorkshire. 8 00:00:28,304 --> 00:00:30,789 I was a normal child growing up, sort of. 9 00:00:30,892 --> 00:00:32,273 Look at that cummerbund. 10 00:00:32,377 --> 00:00:34,793 Played a lot of football. 11 00:00:34,896 --> 00:00:35,794 I ran quite a lot. 12 00:00:35,897 --> 00:00:38,038 [film projector whirring] 13 00:00:38,141 --> 00:00:39,556 Even won myself a few medals. 14 00:00:39,660 --> 00:00:42,042 [crowd cheering] [crowd applauding] 15 00:00:42,145 --> 00:00:42,973 I had two dogs. 16 00:00:43,077 --> 00:00:44,699 [dog barking] 17 00:00:44,803 --> 00:00:46,080 Oh, yeah, and I didn't eat meat. 18 00:00:46,184 --> 00:00:47,116 [record scratching] 19 00:00:47,219 --> 00:00:49,359 In fact, I've never eaten meat. 20 00:00:49,463 --> 00:00:51,775 Okay, so maybe my childhood wasn't that normal. 21 00:00:51,879 --> 00:00:53,743 'Cause that was the 1980s. 22 00:00:53,846 --> 00:00:55,503 Everybody ate meat. 23 00:00:55,607 --> 00:00:58,403 But since then, things have changed. 24 00:00:58,506 --> 00:01:01,785 Veganism is on the rise and it is continuing to grow. 25 00:01:01,889 --> 00:01:02,752 There are countless articles 26 00:01:02,855 --> 00:01:04,409 now stating the potential health 27 00:01:04,512 --> 00:01:06,721 and environmental benefits a plant-based diet can fix. 28 00:01:08,344 --> 00:01:10,242 But for every positive story related to veganism, 29 00:01:10,346 --> 00:01:13,176 there seems to be another two that contradict it. 30 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,695 And I still can't go a day 31 00:01:14,798 --> 00:01:16,904 without hearing from friends, colleagues, and strangers 32 00:01:17,007 --> 00:01:20,183 wanting to share the many reasons they could never go vegan. 33 00:01:21,253 --> 00:01:22,427 Like, "Vegans are malnourished, 34 00:01:22,530 --> 00:01:25,119 Climate change doesn't exist. 35 00:01:25,223 --> 00:01:27,052 Cheese, bacon. 36 00:01:27,156 --> 00:01:29,675 The food is bloody disgusting. 37 00:01:29,779 --> 00:01:31,505 B12, protein. 38 00:01:31,608 --> 00:01:33,610 "Animals are there for us to eat." 39 00:01:33,714 --> 00:01:35,509 Is it all just one big plant-based con? 40 00:01:35,612 --> 00:01:37,649 Why was I even raised this way? 41 00:01:37,752 --> 00:01:39,271 I need to know more. 42 00:01:39,375 --> 00:01:41,894 I need to know why so many people continue to say, 43 00:01:41,998 --> 00:01:43,344 "I could never go vegan." 44 00:01:43,448 --> 00:01:45,243 [tense thoughtful music] 45 00:01:45,346 --> 00:01:47,831 I've never eaten meat because I was raised that way. 46 00:01:47,935 --> 00:01:50,179 I was curious why my parents made this decision. 47 00:01:50,282 --> 00:01:52,940 So, when I was out one sunny day, walking my pooch, 48 00:01:53,043 --> 00:01:55,045 I decided to give my mum a quick call. 49 00:01:55,149 --> 00:01:56,081 [dog panting] 50 00:01:56,185 --> 00:01:58,739 [phone line ringing] 51 00:01:58,842 --> 00:01:59,740 - [Tom's Mum] Hello? 52 00:01:59,843 --> 00:02:00,948 - Hi, Mum. It's Tom. 53 00:02:01,051 --> 00:02:02,708 I've just got a quick question for you. 54 00:02:02,812 --> 00:02:04,434 When you first told people 55 00:02:04,538 --> 00:02:06,264 you weren't gonna eat meat anymore, how did they take it? 56 00:02:09,853 --> 00:02:11,269 - [Tom] Of course, 57 00:02:11,372 --> 00:02:12,856 I've heard this more than anything else since being vegan. 58 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,135 So, I decided to track down some of the UK's top doctors 59 00:02:15,238 --> 00:02:17,447 and nutritionists so they could tell me all about- 60 00:02:17,551 --> 00:02:18,828 - Protein. 61 00:02:18,931 --> 00:02:21,348 I think everyone who's vegan has heard the question, 62 00:02:21,451 --> 00:02:22,935 "Where do you get your protein?" 63 00:02:23,039 --> 00:02:24,351 - The answer is so simple 64 00:02:24,454 --> 00:02:27,250 that I feel completely stupid repeating it every time. 65 00:02:27,354 --> 00:02:30,391 You know, every single plant food has protein in it. 66 00:02:30,495 --> 00:02:32,255 Our largest land animals 67 00:02:32,359 --> 00:02:34,464 and strongest land animals on this planet, 68 00:02:34,568 --> 00:02:38,296 the elephants, and the great apes, and the giraffes, 69 00:02:38,399 --> 00:02:40,332 are all eating plant foods. 70 00:02:40,436 --> 00:02:42,679 - In the West, there really are no cases 71 00:02:42,783 --> 00:02:44,094 of protein deficiency 72 00:02:44,198 --> 00:02:47,546 because we are actually getting an abundance of calories, 73 00:02:47,650 --> 00:02:49,238 and we know that Western vegans 74 00:02:49,341 --> 00:02:50,894 get more than enough protein. 75 00:02:50,998 --> 00:02:53,518 - The average person needs about 0.8 to one gram 76 00:02:53,621 --> 00:02:54,553 per kilogram of body weight. 77 00:02:54,657 --> 00:02:56,590 Okay, fine, if you're an athlete 78 00:02:56,693 --> 00:03:00,249 or if you're bodybuilding, trying to build muscle, 79 00:03:01,422 --> 00:03:02,734 if you're playing a lot of sports, 80 00:03:02,837 --> 00:03:04,425 then your protein requirements do increase. 81 00:03:04,529 --> 00:03:08,533 But again, only to about 1.6 grams per kilogram body weight. 82 00:03:08,636 --> 00:03:10,086 So again, it's not as high as people think, 83 00:03:10,190 --> 00:03:12,433 and it's all achievable with a vegan diet. 84 00:03:12,537 --> 00:03:14,608 - [Tom] As it turns out, Minil knows what he's talking about 85 00:03:14,711 --> 00:03:16,748 when it comes to getting enough protein. 86 00:03:17,783 --> 00:03:20,717 [upbeat rock music] 87 00:03:30,900 --> 00:03:32,142 [record scratches] 88 00:03:32,246 --> 00:03:33,903 In fact, I quickly realized 89 00:03:34,006 --> 00:03:35,974 there's a whole host of professional athletes, 90 00:03:36,077 --> 00:03:39,460 past and present, benefiting from a plant-based diet. 91 00:03:39,564 --> 00:03:41,462 - I think there is this big misconception 92 00:03:41,566 --> 00:03:44,396 around you can't be vegan and strong. 93 00:03:44,500 --> 00:03:45,604 But there's many of us 94 00:03:45,708 --> 00:03:47,330 that are just living examples of that. 95 00:03:47,434 --> 00:03:49,298 - [Tom] And it's not just professional athletes either. 96 00:03:49,401 --> 00:03:50,609 I was finding ordinary people 97 00:03:50,713 --> 00:03:52,611 benefiting from a plant-based diet, too. 98 00:03:52,715 --> 00:03:55,925 Ordinary people doing extraordinary things. 99 00:03:56,028 --> 00:03:58,272 Like Dean Maher, who's climbed Mount Everest, 100 00:03:58,376 --> 00:03:59,687 which is quite high by all accounts. 101 00:03:59,791 --> 00:04:01,586 - Yeah, it's like a plant-based diet 102 00:04:01,689 --> 00:04:04,036 is our superpower, really. 103 00:04:04,140 --> 00:04:05,486 It's just that recovery. 104 00:04:05,590 --> 00:04:08,524 The last race I did was a 100-mile race. 105 00:04:08,627 --> 00:04:12,424 And the next day, unless I really pushed into my quads, 106 00:04:13,529 --> 00:04:14,978 my legs weren't sore at all. 107 00:04:15,082 --> 00:04:16,842 - [Tom] And Mike Coppock, who I met up with in Barcelona, 108 00:04:16,946 --> 00:04:18,361 as he was about to attempt yet another 109 00:04:18,465 --> 00:04:20,605 ultra running world record. 110 00:04:20,708 --> 00:04:23,021 - I'm about to attempt the fastest known time 111 00:04:23,124 --> 00:04:28,337 on the 225-kilometer GR 5 route, near Barcelona. 112 00:04:29,510 --> 00:04:30,718 - [Tom] What I found even crazier about Mike 113 00:04:30,822 --> 00:04:31,892 is that he'd just done a full shift at work. 114 00:04:31,995 --> 00:04:34,135 Rather than go home and rest like a normal human, 115 00:04:34,239 --> 00:04:37,069 he was about to attempt the world record without any sleep. 116 00:04:37,173 --> 00:04:39,106 Why would you do something like this? 117 00:04:39,209 --> 00:04:43,006 - [laughs] Yeah, it's a good question. 118 00:04:43,110 --> 00:04:44,456 - [Tom] Despite years and years of marketing 119 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,734 linking athletic performance to meat consumption, 120 00:04:46,838 --> 00:04:50,082 more and more athletes are adopting a plant-based diet. 121 00:04:50,186 --> 00:04:52,947 Like Lisa Eble, three times CrossFit champion in Germany 122 00:04:53,051 --> 00:04:55,329 and three times medalist at the German Weightlifting Champs. 123 00:04:55,433 --> 00:04:57,089 [dramatic orchestral music] 124 00:04:57,193 --> 00:04:59,471 - For me, it's the right way. 125 00:04:59,575 --> 00:05:03,233 It's good for the animals, it's good for the environment, 126 00:05:03,337 --> 00:05:04,649 and it's good for my body. 127 00:05:04,752 --> 00:05:07,479 I know I can go to an 80-kilo bar and snatch it. 128 00:05:07,583 --> 00:05:09,585 That's easy. [laughs] 129 00:05:09,688 --> 00:05:10,862 - [Tom] And Jeremy Reijnders, 130 00:05:10,965 --> 00:05:12,933 two times CrossFit champion of Holland. 131 00:05:13,036 --> 00:05:15,418 - I noticed already in the first couple of weeks 132 00:05:15,522 --> 00:05:17,834 that I had more energy. 133 00:05:17,938 --> 00:05:20,147 I had the same kind of training but I was less sore. 134 00:05:20,250 --> 00:05:24,220 I was even able to add extra training during the week 135 00:05:24,324 --> 00:05:25,842 because I could handle more volume 136 00:05:25,946 --> 00:05:29,225 because I felt like I was already ready to go earlier. 137 00:05:29,329 --> 00:05:30,433 - [Tom] Kate Strong, 138 00:05:30,537 --> 00:05:31,572 three times static bike world record holder 139 00:05:31,676 --> 00:05:33,263 and ex-triathlon world champion. 140 00:05:33,367 --> 00:05:34,713 - I was able to digest it quicker, 141 00:05:34,817 --> 00:05:36,266 which meant that I could recover quicker 142 00:05:36,370 --> 00:05:38,268 after very heavy training sessions. 143 00:05:38,372 --> 00:05:39,580 I was sleeping better; 144 00:05:39,684 --> 00:05:42,031 I was waking up more alive, more refreshed. 145 00:05:42,134 --> 00:05:45,379 Feeling better, having more positive thoughts. 146 00:05:45,483 --> 00:05:47,761 - [Tom] Ryan Stills, powerlifting world champion. 147 00:05:47,864 --> 00:05:49,418 Alex Morgan, Olympic gold medalist 148 00:05:49,521 --> 00:05:50,971 and two-time World Cup winner. 149 00:05:51,074 --> 00:05:54,112 Lewis Hamilton, seven-time Formula 1 champion. 150 00:05:54,215 --> 00:05:56,839 Chris Smalling, ex-Premier League-winning footballer. 151 00:05:56,942 --> 00:05:59,566 Cheavon Clarke, Ex-Olympic boxer. 152 00:05:59,669 --> 00:06:02,465 Dotsie Bausch, cycling Olympic silver medalist. 153 00:06:02,569 --> 00:06:03,811 - [Dotsie] I had no idea 154 00:06:03,915 --> 00:06:05,606 I was literally ingesting rocket fuel 155 00:06:05,710 --> 00:06:07,505 when I switched over to plants. 156 00:06:07,608 --> 00:06:08,885 I stood on the Olympic podium 157 00:06:08,989 --> 00:06:12,026 just five months shy of my 40th birthday. 158 00:06:12,130 --> 00:06:13,373 - [Tom] Carl Lewis, 159 00:06:13,476 --> 00:06:14,788 who ran his fastest ever times as a vegan, 160 00:06:14,891 --> 00:06:16,997 and tennis superstar, Novak Djokovic. 161 00:06:17,100 --> 00:06:19,655 I could keep going, but I think you get the point. 162 00:06:19,758 --> 00:06:21,311 I wanted to get a sense of how impressive 163 00:06:21,415 --> 00:06:22,796 these athletic feats were, 164 00:06:22,899 --> 00:06:24,729 so I made the somewhat foolish mistake 165 00:06:24,832 --> 00:06:27,490 of challenging Lisa to a race walking on our hands. 166 00:06:30,251 --> 00:06:31,183 - Well done! 167 00:06:31,287 --> 00:06:34,014 [Lisa laughs] 168 00:06:34,117 --> 00:06:35,429 Yes! 169 00:06:35,533 --> 00:06:37,604 - [Tom] Safe to say, I won't be doing that again. 170 00:06:37,707 --> 00:06:39,088 - [laughs] Yeah! - Ah! 171 00:06:39,191 --> 00:06:40,330 - [Lisa] Good job! 172 00:06:40,434 --> 00:06:42,022 [hands slapping] 173 00:06:42,125 --> 00:06:45,405 - You don't have to follow those stereotypical norms 174 00:06:45,508 --> 00:06:47,510 of being able to achieve something 175 00:06:47,614 --> 00:06:49,098 through eating animal products. 176 00:06:49,201 --> 00:06:51,272 I feel like it's just been almost embedded 177 00:06:51,376 --> 00:06:54,241 into the fitness industry that you must have to do it, 178 00:06:54,344 --> 00:06:58,245 but we're calling bullshit. [laughing] 179 00:06:58,348 --> 00:07:00,592 I don't know if I'm allowed to swear, sorry. [laughs] 180 00:07:00,696 --> 00:07:01,524 - [Tom] You can swear. 181 00:07:01,628 --> 00:07:03,388 [light thoughtful music] 182 00:07:03,492 --> 00:07:06,633 [phone line ringing] 183 00:07:08,462 --> 00:07:11,603 [door clunking] 184 00:07:11,707 --> 00:07:12,570 - [Tom's Mum] Hello? 185 00:07:12,673 --> 00:07:14,468 - Hi, Mum. It's Tom again. 186 00:07:14,572 --> 00:07:16,297 You know before, when I asked how people reacted 187 00:07:16,401 --> 00:07:17,747 when you said you didn't eat meat, 188 00:07:17,851 --> 00:07:19,473 was it just protein they mentioned 189 00:07:19,577 --> 00:07:21,441 or was there anything else? 190 00:07:24,858 --> 00:07:26,791 - [Tom] So, basically 37 years ago, 191 00:07:26,894 --> 00:07:29,207 my mum was hearing the exact same thing I hear today. 192 00:07:29,310 --> 00:07:31,451 Thankfully, my new doctor friends were ready to clarify 193 00:07:31,554 --> 00:07:33,418 whether they think vegans should be fearful 194 00:07:33,522 --> 00:07:34,937 of nutrient deficiencies. 195 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,768 - What we know about a 100% plant-based or vegan diet 196 00:07:38,872 --> 00:07:40,805 is that it can meet your nutritional needs 197 00:07:40,908 --> 00:07:43,255 for all stages of life, and this has been endorsed 198 00:07:43,359 --> 00:07:46,258 by some of the major dietetic associations around the world, 199 00:07:46,362 --> 00:07:49,227 including the BDA here in Britain. 200 00:07:49,330 --> 00:07:52,126 We've also got the American Dietetics Association 201 00:07:52,230 --> 00:07:53,438 and the Canadians. 202 00:07:53,542 --> 00:07:54,991 - [Tom] It was evident that the majority 203 00:07:55,095 --> 00:07:56,545 of essential nutrients were available 204 00:07:56,648 --> 00:07:58,547 in abundance in a plant-based diet, 205 00:07:58,650 --> 00:08:00,100 but like any dietary pattern, 206 00:08:00,203 --> 00:08:02,482 a small handful just need a little extra care and attention. 207 00:08:02,585 --> 00:08:04,829 - Iodine deficiency is a global problem, 208 00:08:04,932 --> 00:08:08,626 and it's one of the commonest global deficiencies 209 00:08:08,729 --> 00:08:10,110 that we face. 210 00:08:10,213 --> 00:08:12,077 - This trace nutrient is essential for health, 211 00:08:12,181 --> 00:08:14,321 especially thyroid function, 212 00:08:14,424 --> 00:08:15,909 and we only need a very small amount. 213 00:08:16,012 --> 00:08:18,290 - [Tom] Best plant sources are sea vegetables 214 00:08:18,394 --> 00:08:20,258 like nori, dulse, or wakame, 215 00:08:20,361 --> 00:08:22,812 which I imagine for a lot of people, myself included, 216 00:08:22,916 --> 00:08:24,883 sound like made-up words. 217 00:08:24,987 --> 00:08:27,265 Other options of iodine include fortified plant milks, 218 00:08:27,368 --> 00:08:30,440 yogurts, and breads, iodized salts, or a supplement. 219 00:08:30,544 --> 00:08:31,959 Vitamin D is another nutrient 220 00:08:32,063 --> 00:08:34,375 that just needs a little more care and attention. 221 00:08:34,479 --> 00:08:35,929 It's also known as the "sunshine vitamin" 222 00:08:36,032 --> 00:08:38,725 because over 90% of it is derived from sun exposure. 223 00:08:38,828 --> 00:08:40,416 It's actually a vitamin 224 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:41,728 that more than half the global population 225 00:08:41,831 --> 00:08:43,281 have insufficient levels of. 226 00:08:43,384 --> 00:08:46,077 It is fortified in various plant milks and breads, 227 00:08:46,180 --> 00:08:47,872 but if you live in the Northern Hemisphere, 228 00:08:47,975 --> 00:08:51,082 work long hours indoors, or enjoy role-playing as a vampire, 229 00:08:51,185 --> 00:08:53,394 you should probably supplement, especially in winter. 230 00:08:53,498 --> 00:08:56,121 And of course, everyone's favorite nutrient 231 00:08:56,225 --> 00:08:58,641 of concern for vegans: B12. 232 00:08:59,677 --> 00:09:01,264 - This is a really important vitamin 233 00:09:01,368 --> 00:09:03,991 that's actually made by microbes in the soil. 234 00:09:04,095 --> 00:09:05,924 - A supplement is the most reliable way. 235 00:09:06,028 --> 00:09:08,824 And it's important to mention that many people who eat meat 236 00:09:08,927 --> 00:09:11,758 are also deficient in vitamin B12. 237 00:09:11,861 --> 00:09:13,311 - [Tom] Rohini was right. 238 00:09:13,414 --> 00:09:16,072 B12 wasn't just a nutrient of concern for vegans. 239 00:09:16,176 --> 00:09:17,833 In the US, people above the age of 50 240 00:09:17,936 --> 00:09:19,766 are told to supplement with B12 241 00:09:19,869 --> 00:09:21,733 regardless of dietary pattern, 242 00:09:21,837 --> 00:09:24,149 partly because B12 found in meat comes attached to protein 243 00:09:24,253 --> 00:09:25,806 that requires stomach acid for removal 244 00:09:25,910 --> 00:09:27,739 and proper absorption. 245 00:09:27,843 --> 00:09:29,154 Many older adults 246 00:09:29,258 --> 00:09:31,501 don't have enough stomach acid for this process, 247 00:09:31,605 --> 00:09:32,813 so they're encouraged 248 00:09:32,917 --> 00:09:34,470 to get some of their B12 from supplements 249 00:09:34,574 --> 00:09:36,023 or fortified foods. 250 00:09:37,059 --> 00:09:38,474 All dietary patterns take planning, 251 00:09:38,578 --> 00:09:40,580 but there seems to be a much greater focus on the vegan diet 252 00:09:40,683 --> 00:09:41,995 than most others, 253 00:09:42,098 --> 00:09:43,583 and that's despite the fact that vegans 254 00:09:43,686 --> 00:09:45,585 are at no greater risk of nutrient deficiencies 255 00:09:45,688 --> 00:09:47,172 than meat eaters. 256 00:09:47,276 --> 00:09:48,829 As it stands, they're actually more likely 257 00:09:48,933 --> 00:09:50,417 to have a higher intake of nutrients 258 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,384 than both vegetarians and omnivores. 259 00:09:53,938 --> 00:09:56,837 - Actually, the most prevalent diet in the UK, 260 00:09:56,941 --> 00:10:01,290 you know, the typical British diet, is far from optimal. 261 00:10:01,393 --> 00:10:04,120 We're so deficient in a number of nutrients. 262 00:10:04,224 --> 00:10:06,467 - But the number one dietary deficiency 263 00:10:06,571 --> 00:10:08,746 that you should be thinking about every day 264 00:10:08,849 --> 00:10:12,370 is dietary fiber deficiency. 265 00:10:12,473 --> 00:10:13,543 This is a deficiency that affects 266 00:10:13,647 --> 00:10:16,236 about 90% of people in high-income countries. 267 00:10:16,339 --> 00:10:17,686 And why is that? 268 00:10:17,789 --> 00:10:20,240 It's because our food systems have changed so much 269 00:10:20,343 --> 00:10:24,762 that we depend on meat, and dairy, and processed foods, 270 00:10:24,865 --> 00:10:29,490 and junk foods for 60 to 80% of our calories. 271 00:10:29,594 --> 00:10:31,009 Fruits, vegetables, legumes, nuts, 272 00:10:31,113 --> 00:10:33,080 and seeds in their unprocessed form 273 00:10:33,184 --> 00:10:36,083 generally account for maybe 10% of our calories, 274 00:10:36,187 --> 00:10:41,157 and this is a perfect recipe for a fiber-deficient diet. 275 00:10:42,055 --> 00:10:43,228 - So currently, in the UK, 276 00:10:43,332 --> 00:10:46,300 only one in 10 adults gets enough fiber. 277 00:10:46,404 --> 00:10:47,508 - [Tom] What? 278 00:10:47,612 --> 00:10:49,959 Only one in 10 adults get enough fiber? 279 00:10:50,063 --> 00:10:50,995 Wow! 280 00:10:51,098 --> 00:10:52,410 And it's even worse in the US, 281 00:10:52,513 --> 00:10:54,239 where it's only 5% that get enough. 282 00:10:54,343 --> 00:10:57,277 A similar story in Canada, too, and Europe. 283 00:10:57,380 --> 00:10:58,934 And this is despite the fact 284 00:10:59,037 --> 00:11:00,970 that an adequate intake of dietary fiber 285 00:11:01,074 --> 00:11:03,007 is associated with good digestive health, 286 00:11:03,110 --> 00:11:06,182 a reduced risk of heart disease, stroke, hypertension, 287 00:11:06,286 --> 00:11:08,219 certain gastrointestinal disorders, 288 00:11:08,322 --> 00:11:11,774 obesity, type 2 diabetes, certain cancers, 289 00:11:11,878 --> 00:11:13,224 and not to mention having a good poo. 290 00:11:13,327 --> 00:11:15,675 - Fiber is only found in plant foods, 291 00:11:15,778 --> 00:11:17,400 and many people are surprised to learn 292 00:11:17,504 --> 00:11:20,783 that there is actually zero fiber in any animal products. 293 00:11:20,887 --> 00:11:22,267 - [Tom] What's crazy 294 00:11:22,371 --> 00:11:23,510 is that even a large chunk of vegetarians 295 00:11:23,613 --> 00:11:25,374 don't get enough fiber. 296 00:11:25,477 --> 00:11:27,963 As I continue to investigate the various reasons 297 00:11:28,066 --> 00:11:29,309 people give for not going vegan, 298 00:11:29,412 --> 00:11:31,276 I also ask friends and family members to help 299 00:11:31,380 --> 00:11:33,209 by sending the most common reasons they've heard. 300 00:11:33,313 --> 00:11:35,246 One that popped up a fair few times 301 00:11:35,349 --> 00:11:37,697 is this idea that consuming meat is masculine. 302 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,526 But what does it actually mean to be masculine? 303 00:11:39,629 --> 00:11:41,217 Does it mean the biggest? 304 00:11:41,321 --> 00:11:42,184 The strongest? 305 00:11:42,287 --> 00:11:43,392 The most athletic? 306 00:11:43,495 --> 00:11:45,428 A protector? Provider? 307 00:11:45,532 --> 00:11:47,189 A carer of those around him? 308 00:11:47,292 --> 00:11:49,260 Whatever it means, a large amount of people 309 00:11:49,363 --> 00:11:52,435 associate red meat with masculinity. 310 00:11:52,539 --> 00:11:54,403 I've heard people argue that it's because men are hunters 311 00:11:54,506 --> 00:11:57,717 and women are gatherers; therefore, we're masculine. 312 00:11:57,820 --> 00:11:59,995 But that scenario played out a long time ago. 313 00:12:00,098 --> 00:12:01,513 I'm not quite sure how shopping 314 00:12:01,617 --> 00:12:03,205 in the frozen aisle of your supermarket for a piece of meat 315 00:12:03,308 --> 00:12:05,897 screams masculinity in quite the same way. 316 00:12:06,001 --> 00:12:08,900 Despite this, growing up, I vividly remember adverts 317 00:12:09,004 --> 00:12:10,799 trying to sell manliness as a meal. 318 00:12:11,903 --> 00:12:14,250 ♪ I am man; hear me roar 319 00:12:14,354 --> 00:12:16,528 ♪ The number's too big to ignore ♪ 320 00:12:16,632 --> 00:12:21,499 ♪ And I'm way too hungry to settle for chick food ♪ 321 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,019 ♪ 'Cause my stomach's starting to growl ♪ 322 00:12:24,122 --> 00:12:26,607 ♪ And I'm going on the prowl 323 00:12:26,711 --> 00:12:28,920 - [Tom] So just how big a role does advertisement play, 324 00:12:29,024 --> 00:12:31,233 and why is it so effective? 325 00:12:31,336 --> 00:12:34,098 - We don't notice it, because it's around us all the time, 326 00:12:34,201 --> 00:12:36,894 and it's until you stop and go, 327 00:12:36,997 --> 00:12:38,965 "What on earth is going on there?" 328 00:12:39,068 --> 00:12:40,656 that you suddenly start going, 329 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,554 "Well, that's really messed up, actually." 330 00:12:42,658 --> 00:12:46,075 Lying on her back in a very sexually provocative way, 331 00:12:46,179 --> 00:12:50,631 legs in the air with high heels on and fishnet stockings on. 332 00:12:50,735 --> 00:12:53,358 It's really quite a bizarre image. 333 00:12:53,462 --> 00:12:56,983 Men like to consume the bodies of women. 334 00:12:57,086 --> 00:12:59,468 Men like to consume meat as well. 335 00:12:59,571 --> 00:13:04,300 So in order to establish masculinity, manliness, 336 00:13:05,992 --> 00:13:08,339 you can kind of do that by engaging with the practice 337 00:13:08,442 --> 00:13:12,308 of consuming these bodies in this fragmented, 338 00:13:13,758 --> 00:13:15,139 objectified way. 339 00:13:15,242 --> 00:13:17,175 - Sex sells; it always has. 340 00:13:17,279 --> 00:13:18,625 And for years, men have been sold products 341 00:13:18,728 --> 00:13:20,385 based around masculinity and sex. 342 00:13:20,489 --> 00:13:23,009 I mean, the car and tobacco industries 343 00:13:23,112 --> 00:13:25,045 have been doing this for a long time. 344 00:13:26,115 --> 00:13:27,082 But it was perhaps the meat industry 345 00:13:27,185 --> 00:13:28,808 that took it to a whole new level. 346 00:13:28,911 --> 00:13:31,845 Attractive woman, reference to oral sex. 347 00:13:31,949 --> 00:13:34,330 Phallic-shaped object entering woman's open mouth. 348 00:13:34,434 --> 00:13:36,470 Aspirational penis size. 349 00:13:36,574 --> 00:13:39,163 "Eat this sandwich, be a man, get hungry, 350 00:13:39,266 --> 00:13:41,959 get horny, get fed, get laid." 351 00:13:42,062 --> 00:13:44,099 But seriously, is meat masculine, 352 00:13:44,202 --> 00:13:46,584 or is it just clever marketing? 353 00:13:46,687 --> 00:13:49,138 If advertisements focused on women consuming meat, 354 00:13:49,242 --> 00:13:50,588 then men would likely consume less meat. 355 00:13:50,691 --> 00:13:52,728 And it's believed that it's actually men suffering 356 00:13:52,832 --> 00:13:55,904 with masculine fragility that are more likely to eat meat. 357 00:13:56,007 --> 00:13:57,733 And what of the act of sex itself? 358 00:13:57,837 --> 00:13:59,010 [computer keyboard clacking] 359 00:13:59,114 --> 00:14:00,425 We know from various studies 360 00:14:00,529 --> 00:14:02,807 that high meat consumption can impact blood flow. 361 00:14:02,911 --> 00:14:04,188 And as you can imagine, 362 00:14:04,291 --> 00:14:06,811 healthy blood flow is essential for healthy erections. 363 00:14:06,915 --> 00:14:08,502 Whereas high consumption of plant foods 364 00:14:08,606 --> 00:14:10,953 can improve blood flow to the heart, brain, and the penis, 365 00:14:11,057 --> 00:14:12,403 thanks to flavonoids 366 00:14:12,506 --> 00:14:14,957 and cyanins found in various plant foods like apples, 367 00:14:15,061 --> 00:14:16,856 blueberries, and citrus fruits. 368 00:14:16,959 --> 00:14:19,375 Healthy blood flow, healthy erection. 369 00:14:20,169 --> 00:14:21,895 So with all that being said, 370 00:14:21,999 --> 00:14:24,656 is red meat really the most masculine choice? 371 00:14:27,556 --> 00:14:31,767 [laptop lid clunks] [cell phone buzzing] 372 00:14:31,871 --> 00:14:34,943 Now, I have no idea how my mum stumbled across this chap, 373 00:14:35,046 --> 00:14:37,117 but safe to say I was impressed. 374 00:14:37,221 --> 00:14:38,429 I wonder when he went vegan? 375 00:14:38,532 --> 00:14:40,258 I decided to go meet him and find out. 376 00:14:40,362 --> 00:14:42,295 There are a lot of people who believe, 377 00:14:42,398 --> 00:14:43,537 perhaps you get to a certain age 378 00:14:43,641 --> 00:14:45,229 and you think, you know, "There's no point 379 00:14:45,332 --> 00:14:47,369 in me changing anything now; it won't make a difference. 380 00:14:47,472 --> 00:14:49,405 You know, I've been this way all my life; what's the point?" 381 00:14:49,509 --> 00:14:50,959 - [Paul] My message has always been, 382 00:14:51,062 --> 00:14:52,581 it's never too late to do anything, you know? 383 00:14:52,684 --> 00:14:55,273 So I challenged myself to do a million press-ups 384 00:14:55,377 --> 00:14:57,172 between the age of 80 and 90. 385 00:14:57,275 --> 00:15:01,210 I wanna do 100 ultramarathons before my 100th birthday. 386 00:15:01,314 --> 00:15:02,902 - [Tom] Paul became vegan in his early 60s 387 00:15:03,005 --> 00:15:05,249 and didn't start running until he was 82. 388 00:15:05,352 --> 00:15:07,803 But has he seen any differences to his health by going vegan 389 00:15:07,907 --> 00:15:11,600 over 60 years into his life and starting running so late? 390 00:15:11,703 --> 00:15:13,222 - Well, I've got about 30 friends, 391 00:15:13,326 --> 00:15:15,569 email friends I see regularly, play cards with 392 00:15:15,673 --> 00:15:17,295 and go out walking with. 393 00:15:17,399 --> 00:15:19,608 All of them, without exception, 394 00:15:19,711 --> 00:15:21,644 are on some form of medication. 395 00:15:21,748 --> 00:15:23,267 I'm not. No meds, nothing. 396 00:15:23,370 --> 00:15:24,820 [gentle contemplative music] 397 00:15:24,924 --> 00:15:26,995 - [Tom] As incredible and aspirational as this sounded, 398 00:15:27,098 --> 00:15:28,755 it was also anecdotal. 399 00:15:28,858 --> 00:15:30,722 In reality, I can find individuals 400 00:15:30,826 --> 00:15:34,278 that champion any dietary pattern and claim to be thriving. 401 00:15:34,381 --> 00:15:36,142 What does the science say about longevity 402 00:15:36,245 --> 00:15:38,178 in a whole-food plant-based diet? 403 00:15:38,282 --> 00:15:39,973 Well, it turns out, Paul has a point; 404 00:15:40,077 --> 00:15:41,561 it really is never too late. 405 00:15:41,664 --> 00:15:44,426 If a 20-year-old switches from their standard Western diet 406 00:15:44,529 --> 00:15:45,530 to an optimal diet 407 00:15:45,634 --> 00:15:47,222 that is predominantly whole food plant-based, 408 00:15:47,325 --> 00:15:51,122 it's estimated to increase life expectancy by 13 years, 409 00:15:51,226 --> 00:15:53,400 even making a halfway transition to the optimal diet, 410 00:15:53,504 --> 00:15:55,885 and it's expected to add a further six years. 411 00:15:55,989 --> 00:15:57,232 That's because eating extra legumes 412 00:15:57,335 --> 00:15:59,406 can add over two years to life expectancy, 413 00:15:59,510 --> 00:16:03,100 whole grains another two years, and nuts 1.7 years. 414 00:16:03,203 --> 00:16:05,895 Of course, most people I know are older than 20, 415 00:16:05,999 --> 00:16:07,069 but that's the thing. 416 00:16:08,381 --> 00:16:10,176 60-year-olds making the change, just like Paul did, 417 00:16:10,279 --> 00:16:12,143 could live eight years longer, 418 00:16:12,247 --> 00:16:14,559 and 80-year-olds introducing these foods into their life 419 00:16:14,663 --> 00:16:17,597 could be expected to live a further 3.4 years. 420 00:16:19,012 --> 00:16:21,049 Paul was onto something with his claim about medication. 421 00:16:21,152 --> 00:16:23,189 Vegans are up to 58% less likely 422 00:16:23,292 --> 00:16:25,915 to require medication past the age of 60 than omnivores 423 00:16:26,019 --> 00:16:27,089 and vegetarians. 424 00:16:27,193 --> 00:16:29,471 [deep thoughtful music] 425 00:16:29,574 --> 00:16:31,162 At the end of my chat, Paul asked me 426 00:16:31,266 --> 00:16:33,337 if I wanted to join him on his next ultramarathon. 427 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:34,855 I didn't really, let's be honest, 428 00:16:34,959 --> 00:16:36,271 but he's over 50 years older than me; 429 00:16:36,374 --> 00:16:37,651 I couldn't exactly say no, could I? 430 00:16:37,755 --> 00:16:38,514 - [Announcer] Three, two, one! 431 00:16:39,999 --> 00:16:40,930 Go! 432 00:16:41,034 --> 00:16:41,966 [crowd cheering] 433 00:16:42,070 --> 00:16:44,727 Good luck, everyone! Good luck! 434 00:16:44,831 --> 00:16:46,108 We'll see you when you get back. 435 00:16:46,212 --> 00:16:47,799 [contestants chattering] 436 00:16:47,903 --> 00:16:49,215 - [Tom] We're off, Paul. 437 00:16:49,318 --> 00:16:51,665 We're off. - We're off mate. Yeah. 438 00:16:51,769 --> 00:16:53,426 [contestants chattering] 439 00:16:53,529 --> 00:16:55,462 Put any disease that you think of 440 00:16:55,566 --> 00:16:58,603 next to a plant-based diet online and see what comes up. 441 00:16:58,707 --> 00:17:01,054 And inevitably, it'll say a plant-based diet 442 00:17:01,158 --> 00:17:04,506 is beneficial to any of those conditions. 443 00:17:04,609 --> 00:17:07,129 - [Tom] All right, Paul, challenge accepted. 444 00:17:07,233 --> 00:17:09,235 [deep thoughtful music] 445 00:17:09,338 --> 00:17:11,375 - What should we eat? 446 00:17:11,478 --> 00:17:14,550 What should everybody on the planet strive to eat? 447 00:17:14,654 --> 00:17:16,380 - The Global Burden of Disease study 448 00:17:16,483 --> 00:17:19,383 showed us that food has now overtaken other risk factors 449 00:17:19,486 --> 00:17:21,109 as being the biggest thing 450 00:17:21,212 --> 00:17:22,972 that drives chronic disease in the Western world. 451 00:17:23,076 --> 00:17:28,323 - 74% of the British adults are carrying excess weight. 452 00:17:29,358 --> 00:17:30,566 They're either overweight or obese. 453 00:17:30,670 --> 00:17:31,602 - When it comes to chronic disease risk, 454 00:17:31,705 --> 00:17:33,707 we know that genes only really account 455 00:17:33,811 --> 00:17:36,365 for between 10 to 15% of cases, 456 00:17:36,469 --> 00:17:38,195 and there is a huge amount that we can do 457 00:17:38,298 --> 00:17:39,817 in terms of our lifestyle. 458 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,543 - Studies of populations over time 459 00:17:41,646 --> 00:17:43,855 show us that the more plants we eat, 460 00:17:43,959 --> 00:17:46,444 the less chances of heart disease we have in the future. 461 00:17:46,548 --> 00:17:49,275 - There is only one dietary component 462 00:17:49,378 --> 00:17:52,071 that consistently has been shown 463 00:17:52,174 --> 00:17:55,143 to increase one's risk of developing bowel cancer, 464 00:17:55,246 --> 00:17:56,627 and that's meat. 465 00:17:56,730 --> 00:18:00,079 Even consuming just 200 grams of fruits 466 00:18:00,182 --> 00:18:03,703 or vegetables per day can reduce your risk by 22%. 467 00:18:03,806 --> 00:18:07,534 That's one apple a day to keep the oncologist away. 468 00:18:07,638 --> 00:18:10,296 - Prostate cancer is the most common cancer 469 00:18:10,399 --> 00:18:11,780 that is diagnosed in men. 470 00:18:11,883 --> 00:18:14,058 - And hormone-dependent cancers are, in fact, 471 00:18:14,162 --> 00:18:15,715 more likely to be driven 472 00:18:15,818 --> 00:18:17,993 by the increased consumption of animal products, 473 00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:19,270 including meat and dairy. 474 00:18:19,374 --> 00:18:21,169 - So the World Cancer Research Fund states 475 00:18:21,272 --> 00:18:23,136 that "A healthy diet for cancer prevention 476 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,725 is one that's centered around fruits, vegetables, 477 00:18:25,828 --> 00:18:27,451 whole grains, and beans." 478 00:18:27,554 --> 00:18:30,661 That's pretty much a whole-food, plant-based diet. 479 00:18:30,764 --> 00:18:32,180 The American College of Cardiology 480 00:18:32,283 --> 00:18:33,664 recommends a plant-based diet 481 00:18:33,767 --> 00:18:36,011 for preventing cardiovascular disease. 482 00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:38,876 So that's our two top killers taken care of there and then. 483 00:18:38,979 --> 00:18:41,844 - Eight out of 10 women will suffer from hot flushes, 484 00:18:41,948 --> 00:18:46,573 and we know that historically, women who have eaten 485 00:18:46,677 --> 00:18:47,850 whole plant foods, 486 00:18:47,954 --> 00:18:50,232 women who have soya regularly in their diet 487 00:18:50,336 --> 00:18:51,889 tend to suffer less. 488 00:18:51,992 --> 00:18:53,477 - The American College of Clinical Endocrinologists 489 00:18:53,580 --> 00:18:55,341 recommends a plant-based diet 490 00:18:55,444 --> 00:18:57,964 as a first-line prevention for type 2 diabetes. 491 00:18:58,067 --> 00:19:01,174 - My own father was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes 492 00:19:01,278 --> 00:19:02,106 in his 50s. 493 00:19:02,210 --> 00:19:04,039 - I think the penny dropped 494 00:19:04,143 --> 00:19:08,802 when I realized that I was losing my vision in both eyes. 495 00:19:08,906 --> 00:19:10,321 - And he put it into remission 496 00:19:10,425 --> 00:19:12,703 using a whole-food, plant-based diet. 497 00:19:12,806 --> 00:19:16,224 - I felt much healthier, and I'm in remission 498 00:19:16,327 --> 00:19:18,226 with regard to the diabetes. 499 00:19:18,329 --> 00:19:21,056 - Irritable bowel syndrome, digestive discomfort, 500 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,196 bloating, gas, indigestion 501 00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:26,095 affecting more than one in five people. 502 00:19:26,199 --> 00:19:30,099 We have got to look at the food on our plate. 503 00:19:30,203 --> 00:19:31,411 Because the science clearly tells us 504 00:19:31,515 --> 00:19:33,482 that the standard Western diet, 505 00:19:33,586 --> 00:19:36,761 which is a high meat, high dairy, high processed food, 506 00:19:36,865 --> 00:19:40,075 high junk food diet, a plant-deficient diet, 507 00:19:40,179 --> 00:19:43,630 is the perfect diet to generate terrible digestive health. 508 00:19:43,734 --> 00:19:45,977 - You know, when you read the studies, 509 00:19:46,081 --> 00:19:48,325 the stats tell us that 80% 510 00:19:48,428 --> 00:19:50,568 of the chronic illnesses that we see in the NHS 511 00:19:50,672 --> 00:19:52,708 could be pretty much wiped out 512 00:19:54,089 --> 00:19:58,024 if we, as a population or citizens, adopted a healthy diet 513 00:19:58,127 --> 00:20:00,406 and other healthy lifestyle behaviors. 514 00:20:00,509 --> 00:20:04,237 - It's not about labeling yourself as vegan or plant-based, 515 00:20:04,341 --> 00:20:05,583 or even flexitarian. 516 00:20:05,687 --> 00:20:07,827 It's about choosing to build your meals 517 00:20:07,930 --> 00:20:09,346 from the ingredients 518 00:20:09,449 --> 00:20:11,762 that are proven to benefit human health. 519 00:20:11,865 --> 00:20:14,696 - If we shifted the whole of our population 520 00:20:14,799 --> 00:20:18,458 towards a plant-based diet, whether it's 85%, 90%, 521 00:20:18,562 --> 00:20:20,943 or even 100% for those that can do it, 522 00:20:21,047 --> 00:20:24,568 we would radically reduce our risk of illness, 523 00:20:24,671 --> 00:20:26,397 and that would make my life so much easier 524 00:20:26,501 --> 00:20:27,847 as a cancer doctor. 525 00:20:27,950 --> 00:20:29,711 - [Tom] My nan died of a massive heart attack 526 00:20:29,814 --> 00:20:30,677 a few years ago. 527 00:20:30,781 --> 00:20:32,231 Since then, I've lost other relatives 528 00:20:32,334 --> 00:20:33,922 to various chronic illnesses. 529 00:20:34,025 --> 00:20:35,786 I never once spoke to them about the food they ate 530 00:20:35,889 --> 00:20:37,097 or their lifestyle. 531 00:20:37,201 --> 00:20:38,409 Maybe it wouldn't have made a difference, 532 00:20:38,513 --> 00:20:40,066 but maybe it would. 533 00:20:40,169 --> 00:20:42,827 The real kicker is the fact that I didn't even try. 534 00:20:44,381 --> 00:20:47,591 Over in Scotland, Sophia has very kindly invited me 535 00:20:47,694 --> 00:20:51,284 to watch her defend her British at the Powerlifting Champs. 536 00:20:51,388 --> 00:20:52,906 Powerlifting consists of three attempts 537 00:20:53,010 --> 00:20:54,529 at three different exercises: 538 00:20:54,632 --> 00:20:57,290 Squat, bench, and deadlift. 539 00:20:57,394 --> 00:20:59,568 In an ideal world, you make the lift, 540 00:20:59,672 --> 00:21:02,399 then you increase the weight on your next attempt. 541 00:21:02,502 --> 00:21:03,814 Sophia is off to a great start 542 00:21:03,917 --> 00:21:07,990 with two fantastic opening lifts of 157.5 kilograms 543 00:21:08,094 --> 00:21:10,303 and 165 kilograms. 544 00:21:10,407 --> 00:21:13,651 On her third squat, she's going for 170 kilograms. 545 00:21:15,584 --> 00:21:18,898 [upbeat techno music] 546 00:21:26,561 --> 00:21:28,494 [audience cheering] 547 00:21:28,597 --> 00:21:29,909 [audience applauding] 548 00:21:30,012 --> 00:21:31,255 And she nails it. 549 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:32,601 But I quickly learn, 550 00:21:32,705 --> 00:21:34,810 it's not gonna be plain sailing for Sophia. 551 00:21:34,914 --> 00:21:36,260 She's got some strict competition 552 00:21:36,364 --> 00:21:37,917 in the name of Susanna Argile. 553 00:21:39,159 --> 00:21:41,472 Susanna is about to attempt the British record 554 00:21:41,576 --> 00:21:44,993 with a massive 198-kilogram squat. 555 00:21:45,096 --> 00:21:49,480 [upbeat techno music continues] 556 00:21:49,584 --> 00:21:50,447 [audience cheering] 557 00:21:50,550 --> 00:21:52,414 - [Announcer] It's a good lift! 558 00:21:52,518 --> 00:21:55,831 And a new British record for Susan Argile! 559 00:21:57,902 --> 00:22:00,526 - [Tom] At the end of round one, Susanna's in the lead, 560 00:22:00,629 --> 00:22:03,529 with Sophia back in third place. 561 00:22:03,632 --> 00:22:05,427 [upbeat techno music] 562 00:22:05,531 --> 00:22:08,810 [car engine whirring] 563 00:22:08,913 --> 00:22:11,606 Back in Barcelona, Mike is off to a great start, 564 00:22:11,709 --> 00:22:12,986 as he tells me when we meet up with him 565 00:22:13,090 --> 00:22:14,160 at the first checkpoint. 566 00:22:14,263 --> 00:22:15,334 - Yeah, pretty good. 567 00:22:16,507 --> 00:22:17,577 Reasonably fresh. 568 00:22:17,681 --> 00:22:20,684 Just been taking it slowly. [sniffs] 569 00:22:20,787 --> 00:22:22,893 Trying to go as slow as possible. [laughs] 570 00:22:22,996 --> 00:22:24,170 - [Tom] You're ahead of schedule then? 571 00:22:24,273 --> 00:22:25,861 - Yeah, a little bit. 572 00:22:25,965 --> 00:22:28,312 - [Tom] The weather is truly awful. 573 00:22:28,416 --> 00:22:30,728 Worse than in the UK, if you can believe that. 574 00:22:30,832 --> 00:22:32,868 But it's not deterred Mike in the slightest. 575 00:22:34,767 --> 00:22:36,458 - I'm pretty pleased that it's light now, 576 00:22:36,562 --> 00:22:38,322 and now still feeling reasonably good. 577 00:22:38,426 --> 00:22:40,531 The legs are still working pretty well. 578 00:22:41,567 --> 00:22:43,776 So 76 kilometers. 579 00:22:43,879 --> 00:22:45,881 Yeah, I'm still feeling reasonably fresh. 580 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,576 Yeah, avocado and bean wraps are the best. 581 00:22:50,679 --> 00:22:54,338 [people chattering] 582 00:22:54,442 --> 00:22:55,477 See you tomorrow. - Yep, yeah. 583 00:22:55,581 --> 00:22:56,754 - Yeah. - Have a good time. 584 00:22:56,858 --> 00:22:58,169 - Bye. [contestant laughing] 585 00:22:58,273 --> 00:23:01,000 - [Tom] And just like that, Mike's back on his way, 586 00:23:01,103 --> 00:23:03,451 and is two hours ahead of the current record. 587 00:23:07,903 --> 00:23:09,215 While out on a walk with Chan, 588 00:23:09,318 --> 00:23:10,837 my mum kindly sent me another argument 589 00:23:10,941 --> 00:23:12,011 she's had quite a lot over the years. 590 00:23:12,114 --> 00:23:15,566 [cell phone buzzing] 591 00:23:15,670 --> 00:23:18,604 It was a good question because I also hear this a lot. 592 00:23:18,707 --> 00:23:20,295 So, is it more expensive? 593 00:23:20,399 --> 00:23:21,538 [tense thoughtful music] 594 00:23:21,641 --> 00:23:22,918 - Some people really think so. 595 00:23:23,022 --> 00:23:26,784 And if you go to some supermarket chains, 596 00:23:26,888 --> 00:23:29,200 you might get away with that impression, 597 00:23:29,304 --> 00:23:32,203 especially if you buy sort of highly processed, you know, 598 00:23:32,307 --> 00:23:33,688 burger replacements. 599 00:23:33,791 --> 00:23:36,138 But based on basic ingredients, 600 00:23:36,242 --> 00:23:37,657 on the cost of basic ingredients, 601 00:23:37,761 --> 00:23:39,245 it doesn't seem to be the case. 602 00:23:39,348 --> 00:23:41,730 We wanted to really dig out some data 603 00:23:41,834 --> 00:23:44,733 and look at how expensive different, healthy, 604 00:23:44,837 --> 00:23:46,597 and more sustainable dietary patterns, 605 00:23:46,701 --> 00:23:49,876 including a vegan dietary pattern, would actually be. 606 00:23:49,980 --> 00:23:51,499 The biggest cost reduction we found 607 00:23:51,602 --> 00:23:54,916 for vegan dietary patterns, 608 00:23:55,019 --> 00:23:57,574 and the least for pescatarian dietary patterns. 609 00:23:57,677 --> 00:23:58,989 Those could actually be more expensive 610 00:23:59,092 --> 00:24:00,439 in high-income countries. 611 00:24:00,542 --> 00:24:01,681 One thing to illustrate this 612 00:24:01,785 --> 00:24:03,545 is if we look at the weekly cost 613 00:24:03,649 --> 00:24:06,583 of a normal food basket for one person, 614 00:24:06,686 --> 00:24:09,689 in the US or other high-income countries, 615 00:24:09,793 --> 00:24:12,140 it would be about $50 per week. 616 00:24:12,243 --> 00:24:16,006 You can cut that down to just a little bit over $30 617 00:24:16,109 --> 00:24:18,249 if you were to buy the ingredients 618 00:24:18,353 --> 00:24:20,320 for a vegetarian or vegan diet. 619 00:24:20,424 --> 00:24:21,563 - [Tom] Clearly, there's a cheap 620 00:24:21,667 --> 00:24:22,909 and expensive way to eat vegan foods, 621 00:24:23,013 --> 00:24:24,670 so processed foods obviously play their part 622 00:24:24,773 --> 00:24:26,223 in why people think this way. 623 00:24:26,326 --> 00:24:28,674 Plant-based milks are also 60% more expensive 624 00:24:28,777 --> 00:24:30,538 than their dairy counterparts. 625 00:24:30,641 --> 00:24:31,849 And this is troubling when a large portion of people 626 00:24:31,953 --> 00:24:33,817 are actually intolerant to dairy. 627 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,922 But what about fruits? 628 00:24:36,026 --> 00:24:37,648 Cost of fruit is believed to be the barrier 629 00:24:37,752 --> 00:24:39,581 from stopping 1/3 of people in the UK 630 00:24:39,685 --> 00:24:41,134 from eating enough of it. 631 00:24:41,238 --> 00:24:42,550 And somehow, 632 00:24:42,653 --> 00:24:44,690 this means that four ultra-processed beef burgers 633 00:24:44,793 --> 00:24:47,244 are actually often cheaper than four apples. 634 00:24:47,347 --> 00:24:48,521 And upon further research, 635 00:24:48,625 --> 00:24:51,110 I seem to find an explanation for this: 636 00:24:51,213 --> 00:24:56,080 $540 billion has been dished out in government subsidies. 637 00:24:57,288 --> 00:24:58,704 I mean, subsidies don't have to be a bad thing. 638 00:24:58,807 --> 00:24:59,877 Surely, if used correctly, 639 00:24:59,981 --> 00:25:01,569 they could both drive food prices down 640 00:25:01,672 --> 00:25:04,606 and protect a global food system that works for all. 641 00:25:04,710 --> 00:25:05,918 But when used incorrectly, 642 00:25:06,021 --> 00:25:07,540 then nearly all the money pumped in 643 00:25:07,644 --> 00:25:09,749 could harm people's health, the planet's health, 644 00:25:09,853 --> 00:25:11,751 and drive inequality. 645 00:25:11,855 --> 00:25:13,097 The biggest beneficiary of these subsidies 646 00:25:13,201 --> 00:25:16,238 is animal agriculture, such as beef and dairy. 647 00:25:16,342 --> 00:25:18,413 In the UK and many other countries, 648 00:25:18,517 --> 00:25:20,311 livestock farmers simply wouldn't survive 649 00:25:20,415 --> 00:25:21,934 without the taxpayer. 650 00:25:22,037 --> 00:25:24,246 In Wales, a country where a large amount of land 651 00:25:24,350 --> 00:25:26,766 is used to farm sheep, the average farmer's income 652 00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:28,872 hovers around zero pound per year, 653 00:25:28,975 --> 00:25:30,874 meaning almost all the money a farmer receives 654 00:25:30,977 --> 00:25:32,979 comes from public subsidies. 655 00:25:33,083 --> 00:25:35,085 What's worse is that the majority of subsidies 656 00:25:35,188 --> 00:25:37,605 around the world don't even benefit local farmers. 657 00:25:37,708 --> 00:25:39,848 In the US, 10% of farmers mop up 658 00:25:39,952 --> 00:25:42,299 77% of their country's subsidies. 659 00:25:42,402 --> 00:25:43,887 In the EU, 660 00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:45,647 they get the money based on every hectare of land farmed. 661 00:25:45,751 --> 00:25:49,306 The landowners, i.e. the rich, just get richer. 662 00:25:50,997 --> 00:25:53,172 I wondered about how much money arable farmers get. 663 00:25:53,275 --> 00:25:56,037 And thankfully, I had just the person to ask. 664 00:25:56,140 --> 00:25:59,419 So I decided to head over to Iain Tolhurst's organic farm, 665 00:25:59,523 --> 00:26:00,697 in slow motion. 666 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,113 Do you benefit from any subsidization? 667 00:26:03,216 --> 00:26:05,322 - No, at the moment, we don't get any subsidies at all. 668 00:26:05,425 --> 00:26:07,738 We have had little bits of money in the past. 669 00:26:07,842 --> 00:26:10,776 It was never more than 0.3% of our turnover. 670 00:26:10,879 --> 00:26:12,329 - [Tom] How can that be? 671 00:26:12,432 --> 00:26:14,434 This is one of the richest countries in the world, 672 00:26:14,538 --> 00:26:15,815 and yet people have clearly stated 673 00:26:15,919 --> 00:26:17,576 they can't afford to eat certain fruits and veg 674 00:26:17,679 --> 00:26:18,922 because of cost. 675 00:26:19,025 --> 00:26:20,509 A country where only 8% of children aged between 11 676 00:26:20,613 --> 00:26:23,582 and 18 are eating enough fruits and vegetables, 677 00:26:23,685 --> 00:26:25,480 yet we're offering a pittance in subsidies 678 00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:26,895 to arable farmers. 679 00:26:26,999 --> 00:26:29,415 - So if governments wanted to make a difference, 680 00:26:29,518 --> 00:26:31,141 they would subsidize the price of fruit 681 00:26:31,244 --> 00:26:33,868 and vegetables at the point of sale. 682 00:26:33,971 --> 00:26:35,594 - [Tom] But that isn't what governments are doing, 683 00:26:35,697 --> 00:26:38,217 so it turns out that is why four apples 684 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,840 cost more than four processed beef burgers. 685 00:26:40,944 --> 00:26:45,949 [dog panting] [deep thoughtful music] 686 00:26:48,192 --> 00:26:51,195 [cell phone buzzing] 687 00:26:53,094 --> 00:26:54,509 This really got me thinking, 688 00:26:54,613 --> 00:26:56,822 because if animals are here for us to eat, 689 00:26:56,925 --> 00:26:58,271 then which animals do we mean? 690 00:27:02,793 --> 00:27:04,139 [light thoughtful music] 691 00:27:04,243 --> 00:27:06,970 There are currently over 6,300 species of mammal, 692 00:27:08,488 --> 00:27:11,319 and a further 10,000 species of bird. 693 00:27:11,422 --> 00:27:13,804 Yet in the UK, US, and the majority of the West, 694 00:27:13,908 --> 00:27:15,392 we only eat a handful. 695 00:27:15,495 --> 00:27:19,810 We eat the same animals over and over and over again. 696 00:27:19,914 --> 00:27:23,089 The UK's meat consumption is actually currently reducing, 697 00:27:23,193 --> 00:27:26,955 but we still kill and consume 2.6 million cows and calves, 698 00:27:27,059 --> 00:27:31,028 10 million pigs, 14.5 million sheep and lambs, 699 00:27:31,132 --> 00:27:34,169 and over 950 million birds each year. 700 00:27:35,584 --> 00:27:39,243 In the US, it's more like 34 million cows and calves, 701 00:27:39,347 --> 00:27:41,625 131 million pigs, 702 00:27:41,729 --> 00:27:44,835 and 9.3 billion chickens. 703 00:27:44,939 --> 00:27:50,013 In one country, in one year, they eat 9.3 billion chickens. 704 00:27:51,428 --> 00:27:55,708 And worryingly, in the US, meat consumption is on the rise. 705 00:27:57,089 --> 00:27:58,953 If these animals really are here for us to eat, 706 00:27:59,056 --> 00:28:01,162 then why do we eat so few? 707 00:28:01,265 --> 00:28:03,992 There's literally thousands of species to choose from. 708 00:28:04,096 --> 00:28:06,823 - In meat-eating cultures around the world, 709 00:28:06,926 --> 00:28:10,067 people learn to classify a small handful of animals 710 00:28:10,171 --> 00:28:11,517 as edible. 711 00:28:11,620 --> 00:28:12,967 All the rest they classify as inedible 712 00:28:13,070 --> 00:28:16,936 and often disgusting and even offensive to consume. 713 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,457 So, even though the type of animal consumed 714 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,495 changes from culture to culture, all cultures tend to think 715 00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:26,428 of their own choices as rational 716 00:28:26,532 --> 00:28:28,741 and the choices of other cultures as irrational 717 00:28:28,845 --> 00:28:30,985 and often even offensive. 718 00:28:31,088 --> 00:28:32,193 - [Tom] In other parts of the world, 719 00:28:32,296 --> 00:28:33,608 they do eat vastly different animals 720 00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:37,301 to the ones we consume in the UK, US, and most of Europe. 721 00:28:37,405 --> 00:28:39,752 In Japan, they eat wasp crackers, tuna's eyeballs, 722 00:28:39,856 --> 00:28:41,133 and dolphin. 723 00:28:41,236 --> 00:28:43,273 In France, you can order frog risotto. 724 00:28:43,376 --> 00:28:45,413 In parts of Cambodia, they fry spiders. 725 00:28:46,863 --> 00:28:49,486 And in parts of Asia, they eat cats and dogs. 726 00:28:49,589 --> 00:28:53,801 Animals that in the US, it's not only morally frowned upon, 727 00:28:53,904 --> 00:28:55,319 but it's illegal. 728 00:28:56,562 --> 00:28:58,771 - In the West, for example, we don't eat dogs, 729 00:28:58,875 --> 00:29:01,567 but in the East, in some places, people do eat dogs. 730 00:29:01,670 --> 00:29:03,086 But they don't eat all kinds of dogs. 731 00:29:03,189 --> 00:29:04,397 They eat certain kinds of dogs. 732 00:29:04,501 --> 00:29:07,297 So, it's offensive to eat certain breeds, 733 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,093 but eating dogs who are mixed breeds 734 00:29:10,196 --> 00:29:12,785 is not offensive to many people. 735 00:29:12,889 --> 00:29:17,065 So, there really is not a rational classification 736 00:29:17,169 --> 00:29:19,930 for why certain animals are deemed edible 737 00:29:20,034 --> 00:29:21,138 and others are not. 738 00:29:21,242 --> 00:29:22,174 - [Tom] Why don't we farm and eat dogs 739 00:29:22,277 --> 00:29:23,900 like they do in large parts of Asia? 740 00:29:24,003 --> 00:29:25,694 It'd be quite easy to manage. 741 00:29:25,798 --> 00:29:27,179 Dogs are docile. 742 00:29:27,282 --> 00:29:28,387 That's why we test on thousands of them every year 743 00:29:28,490 --> 00:29:30,665 in the cosmetic and pharmaceutical industry. 744 00:29:30,769 --> 00:29:33,426 It would probably be just as easy to farm and eat them, too. 745 00:29:33,530 --> 00:29:37,361 - When we look at a hamburger, we see food, 746 00:29:37,465 --> 00:29:39,639 we don't see dead animals. 747 00:29:39,743 --> 00:29:42,366 And we feel appetized often, anyway. 748 00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:45,266 We feel appetized rather than disgusted. 749 00:29:45,369 --> 00:29:47,889 Now, if somebody were to tell us that that hamburger 750 00:29:47,993 --> 00:29:49,684 was made from a golden retriever, 751 00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:54,689 chances are we would automatically see that hamburger now 752 00:29:54,793 --> 00:29:57,036 as a dead animal rather than as food, 753 00:29:57,140 --> 00:30:00,626 and we would automatically feel disgusted, 754 00:30:00,729 --> 00:30:05,079 and often perhaps even sad, rather than appetized. 755 00:30:05,182 --> 00:30:06,908 - [Tom] 26% of the UK population 756 00:30:07,012 --> 00:30:10,325 have a dog as a companion animal, and 24% have a cat. 757 00:30:11,637 --> 00:30:13,915 People the world over love their cats and dogs. 758 00:30:14,019 --> 00:30:16,090 Although clearly not everywhere. 759 00:30:16,193 --> 00:30:17,401 In China, anywhere between 10 760 00:30:17,505 --> 00:30:20,508 and 20 million dogs are killed every year, 761 00:30:20,611 --> 00:30:21,923 five million in Vietnam, 762 00:30:22,027 --> 00:30:23,925 and another two million in South Korea. 763 00:30:24,029 --> 00:30:25,271 Which is why so many people in the West 764 00:30:25,375 --> 00:30:27,584 campaign passionately against it. 765 00:30:27,687 --> 00:30:28,619 But why? 766 00:30:28,723 --> 00:30:29,897 What's the point? 767 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,623 I mean, in India, Hindus consider cows sacred, 768 00:30:32,727 --> 00:30:36,006 yet we eat over 2 1/2 million every year in the UK. 769 00:30:36,110 --> 00:30:37,870 Should they protest and sign petitions? 770 00:30:37,974 --> 00:30:39,354 Would we listen? 771 00:30:39,458 --> 00:30:41,909 Why do these ethical double standards exist? 772 00:30:43,220 --> 00:30:45,015 Why can you donate to help prevent animal cruelty 773 00:30:45,119 --> 00:30:47,259 on the oldest animal charity website, 774 00:30:47,362 --> 00:30:49,157 but then on their assurance scheme website 775 00:30:49,261 --> 00:30:51,504 find recipes on the best ways to cook the animals? 776 00:30:53,058 --> 00:30:55,025 If these animals are truly here for us to eat, 777 00:30:55,129 --> 00:30:57,786 we seem to be particularly selective in which ones we mean. 778 00:30:57,890 --> 00:30:59,202 The idea of chopping up my dog 779 00:30:59,305 --> 00:31:01,825 and eating his flesh is a truly horrible one. 780 00:31:01,929 --> 00:31:04,379 But how different is it really? 781 00:31:04,483 --> 00:31:07,417 [dog faintly barking] 782 00:31:09,729 --> 00:31:11,179 [cell phone buzzing] 783 00:31:11,283 --> 00:31:13,561 [Tom groans] 784 00:31:17,220 --> 00:31:18,359 - [Cody] Tom, it's Cody. 785 00:31:18,462 --> 00:31:19,256 Quick question. 786 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,051 What makes people turn vegan? 787 00:31:21,155 --> 00:31:23,502 I mean, we've been eating meat since cavemen times. 788 00:31:23,605 --> 00:31:26,367 There's cave paintings of cavemen hunting animals. 789 00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:30,026 There's no cave paintings of cavemen digging vegetables. 790 00:31:30,129 --> 00:31:32,821 Also, talking of animals, animals eat other animals. 791 00:31:32,925 --> 00:31:33,650 I'm an animal. 792 00:31:33,753 --> 00:31:35,031 You're an animal. 793 00:31:35,134 --> 00:31:37,274 You know, we've even got the same teeth as animals. 794 00:31:37,378 --> 00:31:38,862 Carnivorous animals, anyway. 795 00:31:38,966 --> 00:31:40,312 You know, canines and all that. 796 00:31:40,415 --> 00:31:42,901 I'll send you a picture of me teeth, just to clarify. 797 00:31:43,004 --> 00:31:44,868 Anyway, sorry if I've ruined your trip. 798 00:31:44,972 --> 00:31:45,904 Enjoy this and- 799 00:31:46,007 --> 00:31:48,078 [cell phone beeps] [Tom sighs] 800 00:31:48,182 --> 00:31:51,564 [cell phone buzzing] 801 00:31:51,668 --> 00:31:52,945 - [Tom] My friend's mouth 802 00:31:53,049 --> 00:31:54,671 gave me a newfound respect for dentists. 803 00:31:54,774 --> 00:31:56,052 But I was curious to know, 804 00:31:56,155 --> 00:31:57,329 who has the biggest canines in the animal kingdom? 805 00:31:57,432 --> 00:31:59,710 It's probably not what you're expecting. 806 00:31:59,814 --> 00:32:03,059 The hippopotamus has the largest teeth of any land animal. 807 00:32:03,162 --> 00:32:06,579 Their canines can reach up to 1.5 feet. 808 00:32:06,683 --> 00:32:08,443 But they eat grass and fruit. 809 00:32:08,547 --> 00:32:10,031 They don't eat meat. 810 00:32:10,135 --> 00:32:11,895 And sure, some animals, like lions, 811 00:32:11,999 --> 00:32:13,759 use their canines to tear away at meat, 812 00:32:13,862 --> 00:32:15,795 but others use it for social signaling 813 00:32:15,899 --> 00:32:17,590 and to help defend external threats. 814 00:32:19,075 --> 00:32:21,042 Basically, I'm not sure the mere presence of canines 815 00:32:21,146 --> 00:32:22,837 really proves anything. 816 00:32:22,941 --> 00:32:25,529 I mean, have you tried tearing raw meat with your canines? 817 00:32:25,633 --> 00:32:27,704 Because some people actually have, and it's not easy. 818 00:32:27,807 --> 00:32:29,499 [computer keyboard clacking] 819 00:32:29,602 --> 00:32:31,846 It's not what our teeth are designed for. 820 00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:35,332 They're built for crushing and grinding, not for slicing. 821 00:32:35,436 --> 00:32:36,644 That's why they move side to side. 822 00:32:36,747 --> 00:32:38,301 But what about this argument 823 00:32:38,404 --> 00:32:39,958 that we're all part of the animal kingdom 824 00:32:40,061 --> 00:32:41,200 and we should follow the lead of the big cats 825 00:32:41,304 --> 00:32:42,822 and other predators? 826 00:32:42,926 --> 00:32:44,548 I mean, they're not vegan, right? 827 00:32:44,652 --> 00:32:48,518 - And I'm just gonna say absolutely, they're not vegan. 828 00:32:48,621 --> 00:32:51,003 And they'll kill each other for their survival. 829 00:32:52,073 --> 00:32:54,524 But animals also don't fly planes. 830 00:32:54,627 --> 00:32:55,628 They don't go to space. 831 00:32:55,732 --> 00:32:58,114 They don't have Amazon delivery. 832 00:32:58,217 --> 00:33:01,496 So, to compare us to the animals 833 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,222 doesn't really work as an argument. 834 00:33:03,326 --> 00:33:05,466 - [Tom] What were our ancestors' diets like? 835 00:33:05,569 --> 00:33:06,536 Was it all meat? 836 00:33:06,639 --> 00:33:07,537 Did they eat plants? 837 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,607 What about whole grains? 838 00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:10,022 Does it even matter? 839 00:33:10,126 --> 00:33:12,197 - The take-home message is that these hominins, 840 00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:15,165 they would eat whatever they could get in their mouth 841 00:33:15,269 --> 00:33:17,961 and get some nutritional value from. 842 00:33:18,065 --> 00:33:19,376 - Our ancestors ate to survive. 843 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,552 They ate meat and plants for that reason. 844 00:33:22,655 --> 00:33:24,795 And probably more plants than most people realize. 845 00:33:24,899 --> 00:33:26,176 There's also evidence to suggest 846 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,179 we've been eating whole grains for 100,000 years. 847 00:33:29,283 --> 00:33:31,595 But even if there wasn't any evidence to suggest that, 848 00:33:31,699 --> 00:33:33,114 who cares? 849 00:33:33,218 --> 00:33:34,943 Our ancestors were trying to make it to the next meal 850 00:33:35,047 --> 00:33:36,462 and avoid starvation. 851 00:33:36,566 --> 00:33:38,809 Humans today live in a much more complex society 852 00:33:38,913 --> 00:33:40,052 than our ancestors. 853 00:33:40,156 --> 00:33:42,054 We ask moral and ethical questions. 854 00:33:42,158 --> 00:33:43,814 We want to know what's good for the planet. 855 00:33:43,918 --> 00:33:44,988 What's good for us. 856 00:33:45,092 --> 00:33:46,541 What's good for our wallet. 857 00:33:46,645 --> 00:33:48,681 Here in the West, we're trying to avoid the chronic diseases 858 00:33:48,785 --> 00:33:49,993 that are our biggest killers, 859 00:33:50,097 --> 00:33:51,615 so doesn't it make sense to eat the foods 860 00:33:51,719 --> 00:33:53,031 that help them achieve that, 861 00:33:53,134 --> 00:33:55,205 regardless of how many of them our ancestors ate? 862 00:33:55,309 --> 00:33:57,173 I mean, there's so much evidence for eating a diet 863 00:33:57,276 --> 00:33:59,037 that's rich in plants and whole grains, 864 00:33:59,140 --> 00:34:00,900 so would it really matter one way or another 865 00:34:01,004 --> 00:34:04,180 if our ancestors, 150,000 years ago, didn't eat them? 866 00:34:05,319 --> 00:34:07,114 [cell phone buzzing] 867 00:34:07,217 --> 00:34:09,047 [groans] I'm tryna sleep here. 868 00:34:10,220 --> 00:34:12,429 [Tom sighs] 869 00:34:12,533 --> 00:34:14,017 - [Cody] Hey up, it's Cody again. 870 00:34:14,121 --> 00:34:15,984 I've just thought of a fourth one actually: 871 00:34:16,088 --> 00:34:17,676 It's vegan food. 872 00:34:17,779 --> 00:34:19,850 It's foul, honestly. 873 00:34:19,954 --> 00:34:20,955 Anyway, I'll say that- 874 00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:23,509 [light thoughtful music] 875 00:34:23,613 --> 00:34:25,615 - [Tom] Is vegan food terrible then? 876 00:34:25,718 --> 00:34:27,444 How come so many people are genuinely surprised 877 00:34:27,548 --> 00:34:28,411 when they eat something vegan 878 00:34:28,514 --> 00:34:30,275 and find they actually like it? 879 00:34:30,378 --> 00:34:31,241 - "Oh, that's not bad. 880 00:34:31,345 --> 00:34:32,932 This is vegan food?" 881 00:34:33,036 --> 00:34:35,245 And slowly you start to see them open up 882 00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:37,178 and go, "Oh, I could probably do... 883 00:34:37,282 --> 00:34:38,317 What's the name of that one? 884 00:34:38,421 --> 00:34:39,215 Is that recipe in this book here? 885 00:34:39,318 --> 00:34:40,250 Okay, great." 886 00:34:40,354 --> 00:34:42,149 And when they taste the food 887 00:34:42,252 --> 00:34:44,012 and realize that it's really tasty, 888 00:34:44,116 --> 00:34:46,981 then they kinda go, "And this is gonna make me healthier?" 889 00:34:47,085 --> 00:34:48,051 - "It's affordable. 890 00:34:48,155 --> 00:34:49,397 This is gonna make me lose weight. 891 00:34:49,501 --> 00:34:50,743 This is gonna help me lower cholesterol. 892 00:34:50,847 --> 00:34:51,951 This is gonna fill me up. 893 00:34:52,055 --> 00:34:54,057 This is gonna make me have more money. 894 00:34:54,161 --> 00:34:56,508 And it's gonna save me on healthcare costs." 895 00:34:56,611 --> 00:34:58,303 And suddenly, you start realizing 896 00:34:58,406 --> 00:35:01,133 how much this can affect your life in a positive way. 897 00:35:01,237 --> 00:35:03,411 Suddenly, you go, "Oh, I'm gonna do more of this." 898 00:35:03,515 --> 00:35:05,551 - [Tom] I was fortunate to spend some time with them, 899 00:35:05,655 --> 00:35:07,277 get an idea of how they approach cooking, 900 00:35:07,381 --> 00:35:09,693 and also put together a couple of delicious meals. 901 00:35:09,797 --> 00:35:12,006 - Typically, you're using fresh ingredients. 902 00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:13,939 You're using herbs, you're using spices, 903 00:35:14,042 --> 00:35:15,699 you're using things in season. 904 00:35:15,803 --> 00:35:18,392 As a society, we're very addicted to a certain type of food. 905 00:35:18,495 --> 00:35:20,842 And it's not until you can wean yourself off that 906 00:35:20,946 --> 00:35:23,086 that you can stand back and go, "Oh, my goodness! 907 00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:24,915 Like, I was sacrificing my health. 908 00:35:25,019 --> 00:35:26,745 I was sacrificing my well-being." 909 00:35:26,848 --> 00:35:30,990 Now it tasted good, but this food can taste even better. 910 00:35:31,094 --> 00:35:32,544 - [Tom] These meals were quick and easy, 911 00:35:32,647 --> 00:35:33,959 like their Philly steak sandwich 912 00:35:34,062 --> 00:35:35,823 made from lion's mane mushroom 913 00:35:35,926 --> 00:35:38,412 or their famous five-minute chickpea curry. 914 00:35:38,515 --> 00:35:40,828 Let me tell you, they're both delicious. 915 00:35:40,931 --> 00:35:42,864 - What vegan or whole-food plant-based offers 916 00:35:42,968 --> 00:35:45,384 is food that tastes amazing, leaves you feeling good, 917 00:35:45,488 --> 00:35:46,834 having more energy. 918 00:35:46,937 --> 00:35:49,630 - Most people have this one-dimensional view of veganism 919 00:35:49,733 --> 00:35:53,289 as people who eat salads all day, which is totally wrong. 920 00:35:53,392 --> 00:35:55,187 You know, you have people from different cultures 921 00:35:55,291 --> 00:35:58,259 and backgrounds who eat a variety of meals 922 00:35:58,363 --> 00:36:01,331 which are nutritious, healthy, filling. 923 00:36:01,435 --> 00:36:04,127 - [Tom] In fact, it only takes a quick internet search, 924 00:36:04,231 --> 00:36:05,404 and you'll find countless people 925 00:36:05,508 --> 00:36:07,682 cooking up the most delicious vegan meals. 926 00:36:09,201 --> 00:36:11,030 I also frequently hear that people could never go vegan 927 00:36:11,134 --> 00:36:12,584 because it's too difficult, 928 00:36:12,687 --> 00:36:14,241 that they wouldn't know what to cook at home, 929 00:36:14,344 --> 00:36:16,243 and they wouldn't be able to shop or eat out. 930 00:36:16,346 --> 00:36:17,347 So how hard is it? 931 00:36:17,451 --> 00:36:20,350 [groovy upbeat music] 932 00:36:20,454 --> 00:36:23,284 Believe it or not, I'm not a professional chef, 933 00:36:23,388 --> 00:36:26,045 but to create delicious, healthy, and quick vegan meals, 934 00:36:26,149 --> 00:36:27,599 you really don't need to be. 935 00:36:28,841 --> 00:36:31,258 Experiment with it; start with one-pot meals. 936 00:36:31,361 --> 00:36:32,880 Think of your favorite cuisines and dishes; 937 00:36:32,983 --> 00:36:35,434 they will almost always be flavored with plants, 938 00:36:35,538 --> 00:36:37,781 so play around with herbs and spices. 939 00:36:37,885 --> 00:36:38,920 Everything I'm cooking here 940 00:36:39,024 --> 00:36:40,888 can be done in 15 minutes or less, 941 00:36:40,991 --> 00:36:43,442 and most can be batch-cooked to save time later. 942 00:36:45,064 --> 00:36:46,928 You don't need to miss out on the foods you love either. 943 00:36:47,032 --> 00:36:48,723 Put the word vegan in front of your favorite dishes 944 00:36:48,827 --> 00:36:50,794 and just see how many recipes it brings up. 945 00:36:50,898 --> 00:36:52,934 ♪ You are 946 00:36:56,662 --> 00:36:58,733 - [Tom] And what about shopping and eating out? 947 00:36:58,837 --> 00:36:59,631 How hard is it? 948 00:36:59,734 --> 00:37:01,909 In the UK, every major supermarket 949 00:37:02,012 --> 00:37:03,462 now has a full vegan range. 950 00:37:03,566 --> 00:37:05,223 There's over 14,000 vegan 951 00:37:05,326 --> 00:37:07,880 or vegan-friendly restaurants in England alone. 952 00:37:07,984 --> 00:37:11,712 And in the US, 48% of restaurants serve vegan dishes now. 953 00:37:11,815 --> 00:37:13,472 And it isn't just the UK and the US; 954 00:37:13,576 --> 00:37:15,509 veganism has gone truly global. 955 00:37:15,612 --> 00:37:17,649 The top five vegan-friendly cities in the world 956 00:37:17,752 --> 00:37:19,720 are now spread across four continents, 957 00:37:19,823 --> 00:37:22,550 and there's over 186,000 businesses 958 00:37:22,654 --> 00:37:25,967 from 180 countries on the Happy Cow platform. 959 00:37:26,071 --> 00:37:29,971 It has never been easier to eat or cook vegan. 960 00:37:30,075 --> 00:37:32,008 But what of the meat alternatives on the market? 961 00:37:32,111 --> 00:37:33,354 How convincing are they? 962 00:37:33,458 --> 00:37:35,425 Sure, we know if it's the health benefits 963 00:37:35,529 --> 00:37:36,633 you're striving for, 964 00:37:36,737 --> 00:37:38,773 then whole plant foods are always better. 965 00:37:38,877 --> 00:37:40,396 But what if you just wanna feel like 966 00:37:40,499 --> 00:37:42,984 you're tucking into your favorite burger or chicken dish? 967 00:37:43,088 --> 00:37:46,574 As it happened, I had a little experiment planned. 968 00:37:46,678 --> 00:37:48,680 I have to present people with three dishes, 969 00:37:48,783 --> 00:37:50,958 telling them one's meat and two are vegan. 970 00:37:51,061 --> 00:37:53,029 I wanna know if people can tell the difference. 971 00:37:53,132 --> 00:37:55,445 Let's see how good these meat alternatives really are. 972 00:37:55,549 --> 00:37:56,826 It quickly became apparent 973 00:37:56,929 --> 00:37:59,622 that not only did everybody like the food, 974 00:37:59,725 --> 00:38:02,521 they also kept choosing different options as the meat dish. 975 00:38:02,625 --> 00:38:04,074 - Maybe the burger. 976 00:38:04,178 --> 00:38:05,559 - Yeah, I'd probably say burger. 977 00:38:05,662 --> 00:38:06,836 - Okay. 978 00:38:06,939 --> 00:38:08,251 - I was torn between the sausage and the chicken. 979 00:38:08,355 --> 00:38:11,461 - I think the chicken was meat. 980 00:38:11,565 --> 00:38:13,256 - Yeah, I'd probably say a burger then. 981 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,189 - I'd say the sausage was the meat. 982 00:38:15,293 --> 00:38:16,466 - Okay. - Yeah. 983 00:38:16,570 --> 00:38:18,261 - The reason why I chose chicken as being chicken 984 00:38:18,365 --> 00:38:20,401 is 'cause it looks fibrous. 985 00:38:20,505 --> 00:38:21,678 - Would it surprise you if I told you 986 00:38:21,782 --> 00:38:24,647 that they're all vegan? [laughs] 987 00:38:24,750 --> 00:38:25,993 - It would to me, it would. 988 00:38:26,096 --> 00:38:27,235 That burger was great. 989 00:38:27,339 --> 00:38:28,064 Really, really. 990 00:38:28,167 --> 00:38:29,341 Yeah. 991 00:38:29,445 --> 00:38:31,723 - I actually preferred that chicken to chicken. 992 00:38:31,826 --> 00:38:32,931 - Oh, did you? [group laughs] 993 00:38:33,034 --> 00:38:34,277 - And if it wasn't meat, 994 00:38:34,381 --> 00:38:35,761 it's much better than I thought it would be. 995 00:38:35,865 --> 00:38:37,591 - Well, I thought the burger was fascinating 996 00:38:37,694 --> 00:38:39,696 'cause it was actually a better burger 997 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,008 than a meat burger was. [Tom laughs] 998 00:38:41,111 --> 00:38:43,804 - It was, yeah. - The sausage is my favorite. 999 00:38:43,907 --> 00:38:44,839 So that's number one. 1000 00:38:46,151 --> 00:38:47,014 - That's what surprised me. 1001 00:38:47,117 --> 00:38:48,222 It was all really, really nice, 1002 00:38:48,326 --> 00:38:51,536 and it was a guess which wasn't the meat. 1003 00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:52,916 I didn't have a clue. 1004 00:38:53,020 --> 00:38:54,642 - Now, this was just a fun little experiment. 1005 00:38:54,746 --> 00:38:55,850 I really just wanted to know 1006 00:38:55,954 --> 00:38:56,955 if the meat alternatives on the market 1007 00:38:57,058 --> 00:38:58,577 were convincing enough to make people believe 1008 00:38:58,681 --> 00:39:00,545 they were actually eating meat. 1009 00:39:00,648 --> 00:39:01,925 And it seemed to work. 1010 00:39:02,029 --> 00:39:03,582 If nothing else, I think we can agree 1011 00:39:03,686 --> 00:39:06,551 these meat alternatives are pretty damn good these days. 1012 00:39:06,654 --> 00:39:08,207 What about baking? 1013 00:39:08,311 --> 00:39:10,313 I hear a lot of people tell me they could never go vegan 1014 00:39:10,417 --> 00:39:12,315 because they love baking too much. 1015 00:39:12,419 --> 00:39:13,972 Well, thankfully, my friend, Steph, 1016 00:39:14,075 --> 00:39:16,906 happens to run an incredible vegan bakery business. 1017 00:39:17,009 --> 00:39:19,080 And better yet, she invited me over to test out 1018 00:39:19,184 --> 00:39:21,704 some of the delicious treats she was baking. 1019 00:39:21,807 --> 00:39:23,602 Now, obviously, this is pretty far 1020 00:39:23,706 --> 00:39:26,502 from the whole food goodness I was previously talking about, 1021 00:39:26,605 --> 00:39:27,951 but it's good to know that on those occasions 1022 00:39:28,055 --> 00:39:30,160 where you wanna treat yourself to a cake or a muffin, 1023 00:39:30,264 --> 00:39:31,610 you won't be missing out. 1024 00:39:31,714 --> 00:39:35,718 [upbeat electronic pop music] 1025 00:39:43,588 --> 00:39:48,351 [upbeat electronic pop music continues] 1026 00:39:48,455 --> 00:39:49,732 Steph uses ground flax 1027 00:39:49,835 --> 00:39:52,631 to recreate the same effect an egg might have. 1028 00:39:52,735 --> 00:39:54,875 While this is clearly not a health food, 1029 00:39:54,978 --> 00:39:56,497 there's no denying it's delicious, 1030 00:39:56,601 --> 00:39:58,154 and it shows how creative vegan bakers 1031 00:39:58,257 --> 00:39:59,707 are becoming in the kitchen. 1032 00:40:00,812 --> 00:40:04,609 [upbeat electronic pop music continues] 1033 00:40:04,712 --> 00:40:05,264 I'm gonna make a mess. 1034 00:40:05,368 --> 00:40:06,438 - Okay. 1035 00:40:10,408 --> 00:40:11,788 - Mmm! 1036 00:40:11,892 --> 00:40:12,479 Oh, my word! 1037 00:40:12,582 --> 00:40:14,791 [Stephanie chuckles] 1038 00:40:14,895 --> 00:40:16,172 It's so good! 1039 00:40:16,275 --> 00:40:17,484 - Thank you. 1040 00:40:17,587 --> 00:40:19,693 - [Tom] In fact, I like Steph's baking so much 1041 00:40:19,796 --> 00:40:22,005 that I asked her to bake the cake for my wedding. 1042 00:40:23,662 --> 00:40:25,319 - Most people have so many barriers in their heads 1043 00:40:25,423 --> 00:40:26,976 and so many kind of resistance to it, 1044 00:40:27,079 --> 00:40:28,909 and it's really taking that simple step 1045 00:40:29,012 --> 00:40:30,117 and trying these things. 1046 00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:31,325 - This starts with you. 1047 00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:32,878 Your food choices, 1048 00:40:32,982 --> 00:40:36,123 you make every single meal support the world that we want. 1049 00:40:36,226 --> 00:40:37,262 - [Tom] Round two. 1050 00:40:37,365 --> 00:40:38,436 Bench. 1051 00:40:39,713 --> 00:40:40,955 [sparse tense music] 1052 00:40:41,059 --> 00:40:42,440 Susanna managed 105 1053 00:40:42,543 --> 00:40:45,650 and 110 kilograms on the first two lifts. 1054 00:40:45,753 --> 00:40:48,549 She's going for 115 kilograms on the third attempt. 1055 00:40:48,653 --> 00:40:50,137 [audience cheering] 1056 00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:51,000 [weights clanking] 1057 00:40:51,103 --> 00:40:53,278 [audience applauding] 1058 00:40:53,381 --> 00:40:56,039 Sophia's chasing, trying to close the gap. 1059 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,526 She managed a 107.5 1060 00:40:59,629 --> 00:41:02,701 and 112. 5 kilograms in the first two lifts. 1061 00:41:02,805 --> 00:41:05,532 She's going for a personal best and a new British record 1062 00:41:05,635 --> 00:41:09,881 on a third attempt with a massive 118 kilograms. 1063 00:41:09,984 --> 00:41:13,919 [upbeat electro-pop music] [people chattering] 1064 00:41:14,023 --> 00:41:17,060 - [Judge] Go! 1065 00:41:17,164 --> 00:41:20,063 [audience yelling] 1066 00:41:20,167 --> 00:41:21,168 [weights clanking] 1067 00:41:21,271 --> 00:41:23,653 - [Announcer] Put some weights on the bar! 1068 00:41:23,757 --> 00:41:24,965 Three lead weights! 1069 00:41:25,068 --> 00:41:26,000 Good lift! 1070 00:41:26,104 --> 00:41:28,071 New British record! 1071 00:41:28,175 --> 00:41:31,005 - And she gets it, but it hardly makes a dent on the lead. 1072 00:41:32,351 --> 00:41:35,285 Sophia still sits in third place. 1073 00:41:35,389 --> 00:41:38,530 [tense techno music] 1074 00:41:41,326 --> 00:41:42,534 [birds chirping] 1075 00:41:42,638 --> 00:41:47,056 So, I'm about to go for my leg with Mike. 1076 00:41:48,298 --> 00:41:51,267 And in all honesty, I'm absolutely knackered. 1077 00:41:51,370 --> 00:41:54,132 I've not done any running, but I've just not slept. 1078 00:41:54,235 --> 00:41:55,409 I've not slept at all. 1079 00:41:55,513 --> 00:41:56,583 I can only imagine how he's feeling. 1080 00:41:56,686 --> 00:41:57,756 Mike's coming up to halfway through. 1081 00:41:57,860 --> 00:41:59,931 Yeah, he's about 100K in. 1082 00:42:01,277 --> 00:42:03,969 From the last checkpoint, he was now ahead of schedule. 1083 00:42:04,073 --> 00:42:08,318 But honestly, he's so happy, so upbeat. 1084 00:42:08,422 --> 00:42:10,286 He's genuinely quite inspiring 1085 00:42:10,389 --> 00:42:12,012 every time he comes back to the van. 1086 00:42:13,323 --> 00:42:15,429 I'm gonna go with him, try to keep his morale high. 1087 00:42:15,533 --> 00:42:18,674 Try not to ruin his pacing and ruin the entire challenge, 1088 00:42:18,777 --> 00:42:20,883 'cause, at the moment, he's smashing it. 1089 00:42:20,986 --> 00:42:22,263 I was having a great time. 1090 00:42:22,367 --> 00:42:24,093 And Mike was still in good spirits. 1091 00:42:24,196 --> 00:42:26,060 Although I can tell he was tiring, 1092 00:42:26,164 --> 00:42:29,236 which is to be expected given how far he was running. 1093 00:42:29,339 --> 00:42:30,755 He was still around one hour ahead of the record, 1094 00:42:30,858 --> 00:42:32,653 but the buffer he'd built up 1095 00:42:32,757 --> 00:42:34,655 was definitely starting to reduce. 1096 00:42:37,278 --> 00:42:38,072 That's stunning. 1097 00:42:41,904 --> 00:42:44,769 [camera rattling] [foliage rustling] 1098 00:42:44,872 --> 00:42:46,080 Nearly fell off the cliff! 1099 00:42:48,324 --> 00:42:49,567 Enjoy. See ya. 1100 00:42:53,847 --> 00:42:57,402 Then once again, he's off with around 100 kilometers to go. 1101 00:42:57,505 --> 00:42:59,266 So, no big deal then. 1102 00:43:02,476 --> 00:43:04,064 Back in the far south of England, 1103 00:43:04,167 --> 00:43:06,722 where people can't really understand my accent, 1104 00:43:06,825 --> 00:43:09,207 Paul and I were powering on in the 50K. 1105 00:43:09,310 --> 00:43:12,106 [upbeat rock music] 1106 00:43:20,943 --> 00:43:23,048 As if doing a 50K ultra isn't enough, 1107 00:43:23,152 --> 00:43:26,742 Paul insisted on doing 25 press-ups at each aid station. 1108 00:43:26,845 --> 00:43:28,122 Just hit the five-hour mark. 1109 00:43:29,607 --> 00:43:32,161 Nearly 40 miles in, and Paul's absolutely smashing it. 1110 00:43:34,128 --> 00:43:37,407 [upbeat rock music continues] 1111 00:43:37,511 --> 00:43:38,650 Halfway through, Paul? 1112 00:43:39,686 --> 00:43:40,859 - Halfway, mate, eh? 1113 00:43:40,963 --> 00:43:42,343 We made the halfway mark. 1114 00:43:42,447 --> 00:43:43,621 - [Tom] [chuckles] Feeling good? 1115 00:43:43,724 --> 00:43:44,829 - I'm feeling great, mate. 1116 00:43:44,932 --> 00:43:45,830 Yeah. 1117 00:43:50,248 --> 00:43:51,698 We made it to halfway. 1118 00:43:53,838 --> 00:43:56,668 - [Tom] Before I knew it, we were into the second half. 1119 00:43:56,772 --> 00:43:58,049 Over five hours in, 1120 00:43:58,152 --> 00:44:00,051 we were back climbing up a bloody big hill. 1121 00:44:00,983 --> 00:44:04,193 [wind whistling] [birds chirping] 1122 00:44:04,296 --> 00:44:07,955 [upbeat heavy rock music] 1123 00:44:09,647 --> 00:44:12,719 [cell phone buzzing] 1124 00:44:17,516 --> 00:44:18,966 [light thoughtful music] 1125 00:44:19,070 --> 00:44:23,453 Bacon, for over 3 1/2 centuries, people have been eating it. 1126 00:44:25,110 --> 00:44:27,457 In Canada, 43% of people would rather eat it than have sex. 1127 00:44:27,561 --> 00:44:28,838 Which begs the question: 1128 00:44:28,942 --> 00:44:32,048 how are those 43% of people doing sex in Canada? 1129 00:44:32,152 --> 00:44:34,119 I need to go back to the start. 1130 00:44:34,223 --> 00:44:36,604 I need to see how this becomes this. 1131 00:44:36,708 --> 00:44:37,916 [pan sizzling] 1132 00:44:38,020 --> 00:44:39,124 I need to see a typical 1133 00:44:39,228 --> 00:44:41,195 Red Tractor-assured pig farm in the UK, 1134 00:44:41,299 --> 00:44:42,714 not one, that might show up on the BBC 1135 00:44:42,818 --> 00:44:44,129 or Guardian for malpractice 1136 00:44:44,233 --> 00:44:46,753 and then discarded as a bad apple of the industry. 1137 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:48,996 I know a Red Tractor represents 1138 00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:50,998 a world-leading food chain assurance scheme 1139 00:44:51,102 --> 00:44:55,002 that underpins the high standard of British food and drink, 1140 00:44:55,106 --> 00:44:56,970 and it's a place where animal welfare 1141 00:44:57,073 --> 00:45:01,215 is the number one priority for all livestock farmers. 1142 00:45:01,319 --> 00:45:02,596 Because I also wanted to get to the bottom 1143 00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:03,977 of another argument: 1144 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,082 "We give the animals a good life." 1145 00:45:06,186 --> 00:45:08,257 I mean, the UK has the best 1146 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,017 animal welfare standards in the world, 1147 00:45:10,121 --> 00:45:12,779 significantly better than the US, Canada, France, 1148 00:45:12,882 --> 00:45:15,057 Germany, and Australia. 1149 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,956 The National Farmers Union are quite proud of this fact, 1150 00:45:18,060 --> 00:45:21,097 so if animals are gonna get a good life anywhere, it's here. 1151 00:45:21,891 --> 00:45:23,168 [bird squawks] 1152 00:45:23,272 --> 00:45:24,652 So I went undercover to a pig farm, 1153 00:45:24,756 --> 00:45:26,862 and one thing I quickly discovered 1154 00:45:26,965 --> 00:45:29,243 is there's three stages to the life of a pig. 1155 00:45:29,865 --> 00:45:32,764 [pigs snorting] 1156 00:45:33,592 --> 00:45:35,767 Stage one, farrowing crates. 1157 00:45:35,871 --> 00:45:39,460 [tense uneasy music] 1158 00:45:39,564 --> 00:45:42,532 [pigs snorting] 1159 00:45:42,636 --> 00:45:45,087 Stage two, weaner pigs. 1160 00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:47,986 [pigs squealing] 1161 00:45:51,576 --> 00:45:54,234 Stage three, fattening pens. 1162 00:45:58,203 --> 00:45:59,653 One of the rebuttals against veganism I hear 1163 00:45:59,757 --> 00:46:03,001 is that, as an individual, you won't make any impact alone. 1164 00:46:03,105 --> 00:46:04,416 If everyone else continues eating animals, 1165 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:05,486 then what's the point? 1166 00:46:06,867 --> 00:46:08,524 Staring into the eyes of this individual, 1167 00:46:08,627 --> 00:46:11,078 I'd never felt more strongly against that sentiment. 1168 00:46:11,182 --> 00:46:12,977 In fact, switching to a plant-based diet 1169 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,633 saves at least 100 animals a year, 1170 00:46:14,737 --> 00:46:17,636 meaning thousands of animals over the course of a lifetime. 1171 00:46:17,740 --> 00:46:19,777 Is that really not making a difference? 1172 00:46:21,226 --> 00:46:22,849 That night I couldn't sleep. 1173 00:46:22,952 --> 00:46:25,541 I couldn't shake the last pig from my mind. 1174 00:46:25,644 --> 00:46:26,956 The way they looked at me, 1175 00:46:27,060 --> 00:46:28,889 they were the saddest eyes I've ever seen. 1176 00:46:28,993 --> 00:46:31,996 I had so many other questions as well. 1177 00:46:32,099 --> 00:46:33,721 What happened to the mum? 1178 00:46:33,825 --> 00:46:35,620 Where was the enrichment I'd heard so much about? 1179 00:46:35,723 --> 00:46:37,691 And why was I reading about cases of tail docking, 1180 00:46:37,795 --> 00:46:40,936 teeth clipping, castration, and thumping in the country 1181 00:46:41,039 --> 00:46:43,593 with the highest welfare standards in the world? 1182 00:46:43,697 --> 00:46:44,871 What even is thumping? 1183 00:46:45,975 --> 00:46:47,252 I decided to call it a night, 1184 00:46:47,356 --> 00:46:49,565 reminding myself that these are indoor pigs. 1185 00:46:49,668 --> 00:46:52,050 I know there's such a thing as outdoor-bred pigs 1186 00:46:52,154 --> 00:46:53,569 with better welfare standards, 1187 00:46:53,672 --> 00:46:55,364 and that's what people frequently tell me they buy 1188 00:46:55,467 --> 00:46:58,436 to avoid supporting factory farms. 1189 00:46:58,539 --> 00:47:01,370 But the more I read, the more shocked I was. 1190 00:47:01,473 --> 00:47:05,477 98.3% of pigs in the US are factory-farmed. 1191 00:47:05,581 --> 00:47:10,413 In the EU, over 75% are in large commercial holdings. 1192 00:47:11,173 --> 00:47:12,277 What confused me even more 1193 00:47:12,381 --> 00:47:13,761 was the definition of "outdoor bred." 1194 00:47:13,865 --> 00:47:15,556 It simply means the pigs are born outdoors 1195 00:47:15,660 --> 00:47:18,111 and can then be brought indoors after four weeks. 1196 00:47:18,214 --> 00:47:19,422 It also doesn't necessarily mean 1197 00:47:19,526 --> 00:47:21,114 they have access to grass to graze on, 1198 00:47:21,217 --> 00:47:23,599 as apparently, a concrete yard would suffice. 1199 00:47:23,702 --> 00:47:25,014 Do people know this? 1200 00:47:25,118 --> 00:47:28,052 If so, why even bother buying outdoor-bred animals? 1201 00:47:28,155 --> 00:47:31,055 But when a journalist asked the then CEO of Red Tractor, 1202 00:47:31,158 --> 00:47:32,263 he answered the question with, 1203 00:47:32,366 --> 00:47:34,127 "The advantages are some people 1204 00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:35,438 are prepared to pay more for it 1205 00:47:35,542 --> 00:47:38,027 because they think it's better welfare." 1206 00:47:38,131 --> 00:47:39,580 Are you seriously telling me 1207 00:47:39,684 --> 00:47:42,583 this is the best quality of animal welfare in the world? 1208 00:47:42,687 --> 00:47:43,791 I'm not sure I'm convinced. 1209 00:47:43,895 --> 00:47:45,310 [pigs squealing] 1210 00:47:45,414 --> 00:47:47,865 The next morning, my alarm clock woke me to take Chan out. 1211 00:47:47,968 --> 00:47:50,384 Only in my day's slumber, it sounded different. 1212 00:47:50,488 --> 00:47:51,869 It sounded like pigs screaming out, 1213 00:47:51,972 --> 00:47:53,629 the same pigs I'd seen the night before, 1214 00:47:53,732 --> 00:47:55,113 and they didn't sound happy. 1215 00:47:55,217 --> 00:47:56,425 And that stuck with me. 1216 00:47:57,633 --> 00:47:59,497 The thing is, I know when Chan sounds happy 1217 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:00,774 and when he doesn't. 1218 00:48:00,878 --> 00:48:02,396 I'm sure most people with companion animals 1219 00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:03,811 wish they could talk to them at some point 1220 00:48:03,915 --> 00:48:05,468 just for confirmation. 1221 00:48:05,572 --> 00:48:07,470 As it happens, I stumbled across an article 1222 00:48:07,574 --> 00:48:09,541 talking about how researchers in Copenhagen 1223 00:48:09,645 --> 00:48:10,957 were doing exactly this, 1224 00:48:11,060 --> 00:48:12,406 and it was fascinating. 1225 00:48:13,994 --> 00:48:15,858 So what sort of situations deliver these positive 1226 00:48:15,962 --> 00:48:17,411 and negative responses? 1227 00:48:17,515 --> 00:48:19,379 - So, the situations we used in our study 1228 00:48:19,482 --> 00:48:21,760 that were positive: 1229 00:48:21,864 --> 00:48:23,797 So we had enrichment, for example. 1230 00:48:23,901 --> 00:48:28,940 So pigs together in a family arena, where they had toys, 1231 00:48:30,079 --> 00:48:32,116 and food, and water, and could just explore. 1232 00:48:32,219 --> 00:48:33,703 So, the negative emotions we had 1233 00:48:33,807 --> 00:48:37,984 were, for example, obvious ones in the life of a pig, 1234 00:48:38,087 --> 00:48:39,537 so castration, 1235 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,160 eventually at the end of the life, slaughterhouse. 1236 00:48:42,264 --> 00:48:44,749 In piglets, we had when piglets 1237 00:48:44,852 --> 00:48:46,440 are being crushed by their mother, 1238 00:48:46,544 --> 00:48:48,718 when they miss nursing, when they fight. 1239 00:48:48,822 --> 00:48:49,961 - [Tom] I'll be honest, 1240 00:48:50,065 --> 00:48:52,101 I wasn't overly surprised by any of this. 1241 00:48:52,205 --> 00:48:55,242 So what did the negative emotional responses sound like? 1242 00:48:55,346 --> 00:48:57,865 - Then we have examples of more negative sounds, 1243 00:48:57,969 --> 00:49:00,592 like piglet castration. 1244 00:49:00,696 --> 00:49:01,800 [piglet screeching] 1245 00:49:01,904 --> 00:49:04,562 That's very high pitch and very long. 1246 00:49:04,665 --> 00:49:07,185 - [Tom] Versus a positive emotional response. 1247 00:49:07,289 --> 00:49:09,118 - And then we have reunion with littermates, 1248 00:49:09,222 --> 00:49:11,707 so piglets being reunited. 1249 00:49:11,810 --> 00:49:13,260 [piglet grunts] 1250 00:49:13,364 --> 00:49:15,711 So, that's very short; that's just a simple short grunt. 1251 00:49:15,814 --> 00:49:18,196 - [Tom] There really is a clear difference in their sounds. 1252 00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:19,957 But what about how they behave? 1253 00:49:21,165 --> 00:49:22,580 I had to see pigs in a different environment 1254 00:49:22,683 --> 00:49:24,858 to see how they compared to what I'd seen undercover, 1255 00:49:24,962 --> 00:49:26,653 so I reached out to an animal sanctuary. 1256 00:49:26,756 --> 00:49:30,312 [light thoughtful music] 1257 00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:33,418 These pigs clearly look different; 1258 00:49:33,522 --> 00:49:35,144 they smell different, they act different, 1259 00:49:35,248 --> 00:49:37,491 they sound different to the ones at the farm. 1260 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,562 In fact, they sound much closer 1261 00:49:39,666 --> 00:49:41,392 to the short grunts shown to me by Elodie 1262 00:49:41,495 --> 00:49:43,704 when pigs were demonstrating positive emotions. 1263 00:49:46,535 --> 00:49:47,743 And while I was at the sanctuary, 1264 00:49:47,846 --> 00:49:48,916 I got to see various other animals 1265 00:49:49,020 --> 00:49:50,677 living out their best lives. 1266 00:49:51,954 --> 00:49:53,266 And Katherine, who runs the sanctuary, 1267 00:49:53,369 --> 00:49:54,922 also showed me some chickens they'd rescued 1268 00:49:55,026 --> 00:49:56,683 from a nearby battery farm. 1269 00:49:56,786 --> 00:49:59,548 At least, I thought they were from battery farms. 1270 00:50:01,032 --> 00:50:02,482 I know chickens have it rough. 1271 00:50:02,585 --> 00:50:04,277 They are the most abused land animal 1272 00:50:04,380 --> 00:50:07,383 with 180 million dying every day. 1273 00:50:07,487 --> 00:50:09,489 I'd done my research on chickens long ago. 1274 00:50:09,592 --> 00:50:11,215 I knew that 95% of broiler chickens 1275 00:50:11,318 --> 00:50:12,906 were factory-farmed in the UK 1276 00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:16,151 and a staggering 99.9% were in the US. 1277 00:50:16,254 --> 00:50:18,084 I knew that caged hens only had the space equivalent 1278 00:50:18,187 --> 00:50:19,602 to the size of an iPad. 1279 00:50:19,706 --> 00:50:22,191 But because I knew that, I never bought caged eggs. 1280 00:50:22,295 --> 00:50:23,606 I bought free-range. 1281 00:50:23,710 --> 00:50:26,368 Caged equals bad, free-range equals good, right? 1282 00:50:26,471 --> 00:50:28,577 They don't suffer; they're free. 1283 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:29,612 - All of these chickens, 1284 00:50:29,716 --> 00:50:31,718 whether they're coming from a caged farm, 1285 00:50:31,821 --> 00:50:32,995 which we have rescued from, 1286 00:50:33,099 --> 00:50:34,548 whether they're coming from a barn, 1287 00:50:34,652 --> 00:50:36,585 where they just don't go outside but they're kept in a barn, 1288 00:50:36,688 --> 00:50:38,897 or whether they're coming from free-range farms 1289 00:50:39,001 --> 00:50:40,658 and sometimes organic free-range farms, 1290 00:50:40,761 --> 00:50:44,144 that people think is the highest welfare imaginable, 1291 00:50:44,248 --> 00:50:48,804 they all come with a lot of medical issues. 1292 00:50:48,907 --> 00:50:52,670 A lot of them featherless, being pecked on by each other, 1293 00:50:52,773 --> 00:50:53,774 redraw. 1294 00:50:53,878 --> 00:50:55,017 They will have a lot of issues 1295 00:50:55,121 --> 00:50:56,363 with their reproductive systems. 1296 00:50:56,467 --> 00:50:58,020 They will have a lot that are egg-bound, 1297 00:50:58,124 --> 00:50:59,573 which means the eggs get stuck. 1298 00:50:59,677 --> 00:51:03,163 They will have egg peritonitis, have a lot of prolapses. 1299 00:51:03,267 --> 00:51:05,441 We have a lot of leg problems. 1300 00:51:05,545 --> 00:51:07,098 So a lot of them will come in limping, 1301 00:51:07,202 --> 00:51:09,514 a lot of broken legs, a lot of pulled muscles. 1302 00:51:10,791 --> 00:51:11,930 Of course, I don't know if people know this, 1303 00:51:12,034 --> 00:51:14,657 but the way that is accepted that you pick chickens up 1304 00:51:14,761 --> 00:51:15,934 is by the legs. 1305 00:51:16,038 --> 00:51:19,697 So when you are collecting hens, they will bring out, 1306 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,872 like, four or five hens, sometimes, in one hand, 1307 00:51:22,976 --> 00:51:24,633 held by their legs. 1308 00:51:24,736 --> 00:51:25,737 And the Defra standard 1309 00:51:25,841 --> 00:51:28,464 is that you're supposed to hold both legs. 1310 00:51:28,568 --> 00:51:29,914 - [Tom] Free-range birds bread for meat 1311 00:51:30,017 --> 00:51:31,467 are kept alive for a meager 1312 00:51:31,571 --> 00:51:34,470 two to three weeks longer in the UK than caged chickens. 1313 00:51:35,816 --> 00:51:38,198 They only have to be kept outdoors for half their life 1314 00:51:38,302 --> 00:51:39,579 but when they're indoors, 1315 00:51:39,682 --> 00:51:42,996 they're allowed to house 13 birds per square meter. 1316 00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:46,103 That's only four less than the 17 limit for a caged chicken. 1317 00:51:46,206 --> 00:51:49,347 Real kicker for the animal-loving vegetarian I grew up as 1318 00:51:49,451 --> 00:51:50,624 was that free-range eggs 1319 00:51:50,728 --> 00:51:51,970 meant that the hence could still be crammed 1320 00:51:52,074 --> 00:51:53,903 with up to nine chickens per square meter 1321 00:51:54,007 --> 00:51:55,457 when indoors on a night. 1322 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,804 And that most egg-laying hens that don't die on farms 1323 00:51:57,907 --> 00:51:59,495 are killed for meat at 72 weeks 1324 00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:01,670 when they're not fit to lay anymore. 1325 00:52:01,773 --> 00:52:03,775 It would seem to me that the egg industry 1326 00:52:03,879 --> 00:52:05,639 is the meat industry. 1327 00:52:12,439 --> 00:52:13,337 - No. 1328 00:52:15,028 --> 00:52:17,617 I mean, we didn't know. 1329 00:52:18,963 --> 00:52:23,899 People think that free-range equals high welfare. 1330 00:52:24,002 --> 00:52:26,281 It depends what your definition of high welfare is. 1331 00:52:26,384 --> 00:52:27,558 - [Tom] Pondering over what I'd learned 1332 00:52:27,661 --> 00:52:29,215 and witnessed myself at the factory farm, 1333 00:52:29,318 --> 00:52:31,665 I met up with Dr. Alice Brough, a former pig vet, 1334 00:52:31,769 --> 00:52:33,943 to discuss the footage I'd captured. 1335 00:52:34,047 --> 00:52:37,706 - It's what you'd describe as a typical farrowing house. 1336 00:52:37,809 --> 00:52:40,157 What we see here is the length of the sow 1337 00:52:40,260 --> 00:52:42,400 is obviously, like, as long, 1338 00:52:42,504 --> 00:52:45,507 if not slightly too large for the crate. 1339 00:52:45,610 --> 00:52:50,063 There are stereotypical signs of stress behaviors, 1340 00:52:50,167 --> 00:52:52,686 and that's because the only thing she has to do is eat. 1341 00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:53,756 It's really sad. 1342 00:52:53,860 --> 00:52:57,001 I mean, farrowing houses are probably the saddest 1343 00:52:57,104 --> 00:52:58,658 places on farm, in my opinion. 1344 00:52:58,761 --> 00:53:01,178 She's obviously got, like, a little bit of sawdust there, 1345 00:53:01,281 --> 00:53:04,111 which the law specifies that you have to provide 1346 00:53:04,215 --> 00:53:06,459 some sort of nesting substrate, 1347 00:53:06,562 --> 00:53:08,668 which can literally be a handful of paper, 1348 00:53:08,771 --> 00:53:10,187 and that will sort of- 1349 00:53:11,395 --> 00:53:12,741 - That will tick the box. - Yes, so exactly. 1350 00:53:12,844 --> 00:53:13,880 That's what it is. 1351 00:53:13,983 --> 00:53:15,399 But I mean, that's better 1352 00:53:15,502 --> 00:53:18,022 than a lot of places I've seen, to be honest, in providing 1353 00:53:18,125 --> 00:53:19,196 some substrate for them. - Oh, really? 1354 00:53:19,299 --> 00:53:20,093 - [Alice] Yeah. 1355 00:53:20,197 --> 00:53:22,406 [somber thoughtful music] 1356 00:53:22,509 --> 00:53:25,132 - We also visited Pear Tree Farm Animal Sanctuary. 1357 00:53:25,236 --> 00:53:28,964 - [Alice] So, immediately, we see them rooting in the ground 1358 00:53:29,067 --> 00:53:33,071 with their snouts, which is such a strongly motivated, 1359 00:53:33,175 --> 00:53:34,452 like, natural behavior for pigs. 1360 00:53:34,556 --> 00:53:35,488 That's their thing. 1361 00:53:35,591 --> 00:53:37,731 Long tails, lovely to see. 1362 00:53:39,043 --> 00:53:40,562 - [Tom] This pig is having the time of its life. 1363 00:53:40,665 --> 00:53:42,115 - [Alice] Having a great time. 1364 00:53:42,219 --> 00:53:44,428 - [Tom] Getting a bit of a belly rub, and bloody loves it. 1365 00:53:44,531 --> 00:53:45,636 - Yeah. [Tom laughs] 1366 00:53:45,739 --> 00:53:46,878 Oh, they're so like dogs, aren't they? 1367 00:53:46,982 --> 00:53:49,433 Like, they do love a belly rub. 1368 00:53:49,536 --> 00:53:51,400 They have so many vocalizations. 1369 00:53:51,504 --> 00:53:54,403 If you spend time, particularly with pigs on sanctuaries, 1370 00:53:54,507 --> 00:53:57,095 they do almost, like, converse with you. 1371 00:53:57,199 --> 00:54:00,892 - So, this is a second phase, as it was described to me, 1372 00:54:00,996 --> 00:54:02,273 'cause there's three phases. 1373 00:54:02,377 --> 00:54:04,171 So, do you wanna tell us what's happening here then? 1374 00:54:04,275 --> 00:54:06,070 - [Alice] This is like a typical 1375 00:54:06,173 --> 00:54:08,521 sort of weaner accommodation unit. 1376 00:54:08,624 --> 00:54:10,661 That thing there is meant to be a toy. 1377 00:54:10,764 --> 00:54:12,766 The flies are absolutely typical. 1378 00:54:12,870 --> 00:54:14,872 That's such a standard thing to see. 1379 00:54:14,975 --> 00:54:18,841 Feces all over the walls, all over the floor. 1380 00:54:18,945 --> 00:54:23,156 Again, this looks like relatively decent 1381 00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:26,090 compared to, like, quite a lot of units that I've seen. 1382 00:54:26,193 --> 00:54:30,094 Most of these pigs have sort of wounds on their flanks, 1383 00:54:30,197 --> 00:54:31,613 which is from fighting. 1384 00:54:31,716 --> 00:54:34,961 You're cramming them into these tiny little barren cells. 1385 00:54:35,064 --> 00:54:37,308 And generally, this looks like a typical, 1386 00:54:37,412 --> 00:54:39,517 sort of Red Tractor finishing unit. 1387 00:54:39,621 --> 00:54:40,415 No wonder they're fighting. 1388 00:54:40,518 --> 00:54:42,140 They've got nowhere to go. 1389 00:54:42,244 --> 00:54:43,487 - That ball there- - Yeah. 1390 00:54:43,590 --> 00:54:45,282 - [Tom] Is part of their enrichment then, I guess? 1391 00:54:45,385 --> 00:54:46,559 - [Alice] Yeah. 1392 00:54:46,662 --> 00:54:47,698 So, we can see, on this one shot, 1393 00:54:47,801 --> 00:54:49,976 we've got a really filthy ball 1394 00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:54,394 and a completely filthy plastic tube hanging up. 1395 00:54:54,498 --> 00:54:55,740 Their tails are docked, 1396 00:54:55,844 --> 00:54:59,399 so that's a mutilation done without anesthetic. 1397 00:54:59,503 --> 00:55:01,884 - [Tom] And how do the piglets react? 1398 00:55:01,988 --> 00:55:03,748 - [Alice] Oh, they scream. 1399 00:55:03,852 --> 00:55:05,232 - [Tom] I've seen the term "thumping" thrown about 1400 00:55:05,336 --> 00:55:07,580 as something done to pigs, but what is it? 1401 00:55:09,167 --> 00:55:10,790 - [Alice] Picking the piglet up by the back legs, 1402 00:55:10,893 --> 00:55:12,550 swinging them over your shoulder, 1403 00:55:12,654 --> 00:55:14,587 and sort of just cracking their skull on the- 1404 00:55:14,690 --> 00:55:15,553 - Oh, my. - Concrete wall, 1405 00:55:15,657 --> 00:55:17,175 or on the side of something. 1406 00:55:17,279 --> 00:55:18,936 - [Tom] And that's legal then? 1407 00:55:19,039 --> 00:55:20,213 - That's legal. 1408 00:55:20,317 --> 00:55:22,457 That's something I've done myself a lot. 1409 00:55:23,458 --> 00:55:27,013 [tense uneasy music] [pigs snorting] 1410 00:55:27,116 --> 00:55:29,256 - [Tom] I think this is like maybe the sick bay, 1411 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,017 the sick pen. - Yeah, like a hospital pen, 1412 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,571 if you can say that with a straight face. 1413 00:55:33,675 --> 00:55:35,780 There's no evidence that these pigs are being treated. 1414 00:55:35,884 --> 00:55:37,989 I'll talk about this little fella now, 1415 00:55:38,093 --> 00:55:41,855 with the huge mass under the throat there. 1416 00:55:41,959 --> 00:55:43,409 That's not something that's gonna get better 1417 00:55:43,512 --> 00:55:45,203 before slaughter. 1418 00:55:45,307 --> 00:55:49,449 So, what they're doing here is just leaving him to linger. 1419 00:55:49,553 --> 00:55:53,073 Like, there have been times where I've gone onto farms 1420 00:55:53,177 --> 00:55:56,698 and had to go around and shoot, like, 20 pigs in a row, 1421 00:55:56,801 --> 00:55:59,286 just because they've had these joint swellings 1422 00:55:59,390 --> 00:56:00,702 and been left on the slats 1423 00:56:00,805 --> 00:56:03,049 and obviously not been checked properly or treated. 1424 00:56:03,152 --> 00:56:04,119 - [Tom] What I don't understand 1425 00:56:04,222 --> 00:56:05,362 is that the Animal Protection Index 1426 00:56:05,465 --> 00:56:07,156 rank us top for animal welfare. 1427 00:56:07,260 --> 00:56:10,194 The National Farmers Union boast about it on their website. 1428 00:56:10,297 --> 00:56:13,922 - The NFU have put this up as sort of a proud moment 1429 00:56:14,025 --> 00:56:16,373 of doing well with farm animal welfare. 1430 00:56:16,476 --> 00:56:20,342 But what they haven't done is separate out 1431 00:56:20,446 --> 00:56:22,724 our ranking for actual farm animals. 1432 00:56:22,827 --> 00:56:25,796 So, what we got for farm animals was a D, 1433 00:56:25,899 --> 00:56:29,178 which ranks us in line with South Korea, 1434 00:56:29,282 --> 00:56:32,492 Mexico, Brazil, Italy, 1435 00:56:32,596 --> 00:56:33,942 various other countries 1436 00:56:34,045 --> 00:56:36,220 which are not known for their high welfare standards. 1437 00:56:36,323 --> 00:56:39,119 So, you know, the fact that they're putting this out 1438 00:56:39,223 --> 00:56:40,673 as something, which is great, 1439 00:56:40,776 --> 00:56:43,020 and we celebrate our world-leading welfare, 1440 00:56:43,123 --> 00:56:44,849 but actually, the animals that they're in charge of, 1441 00:56:44,953 --> 00:56:48,474 the farm animals, are scoring incredibly poorly. 1442 00:56:48,577 --> 00:56:50,717 - What the hell? 1443 00:56:50,821 --> 00:56:52,478 Surely, that can't be right? 1444 00:56:52,581 --> 00:56:54,100 But it is. 1445 00:56:54,203 --> 00:56:55,377 While the Animal Protection Index 1446 00:56:55,481 --> 00:56:56,930 scored the UK overall with a B 1447 00:56:57,034 --> 00:56:58,898 for our animal welfare standards, 1448 00:56:59,001 --> 00:57:01,452 largely because of our laws on protecting companion animals 1449 00:57:01,556 --> 00:57:02,971 and those in captivity, 1450 00:57:03,074 --> 00:57:06,388 for animals used in farming, we did score a D. 1451 00:57:06,492 --> 00:57:09,149 The lowest grade of any area scored. 1452 00:57:09,253 --> 00:57:11,324 Although globally, I was having a hard time finding 1453 00:57:11,428 --> 00:57:13,533 a country that did score higher than a D for farmed animals. 1454 00:57:13,637 --> 00:57:16,122 The US and Australia scored an E. 1455 00:57:16,225 --> 00:57:18,952 What are they doing to their farmed animals there? 1456 00:57:19,056 --> 00:57:21,645 I've read and heard a lot about antibiotic use in farming, 1457 00:57:21,748 --> 00:57:23,681 but in the UK, it's dropping, right? 1458 00:57:23,785 --> 00:57:27,616 - The NFU puts out this big boast 1459 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,136 that we've reduced our usage by 53% 1460 00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:33,519 over, you know, 2014 to 2018. 1461 00:57:34,692 --> 00:57:37,454 And it kind of went down really quickly 1462 00:57:37,557 --> 00:57:39,007 when we started monitoring what we were doing, 1463 00:57:39,110 --> 00:57:41,216 and then it plateaued because we've reached a point 1464 00:57:41,319 --> 00:57:45,600 where we couldn't physically use fewer antibiotics 1465 00:57:45,703 --> 00:57:47,636 without all the animals just dying. 1466 00:57:47,740 --> 00:57:51,537 They did a huge analysis on 139 different studies, 1467 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,886 and 72% of them said there was a confirmed clear link 1468 00:57:55,989 --> 00:57:59,717 between use in livestock and resistance in humans. 1469 00:57:59,821 --> 00:58:01,167 - When we go to hospital, 1470 00:58:01,270 --> 00:58:03,721 we want the antibiotics that we're given to work. 1471 00:58:03,825 --> 00:58:06,275 We want our loved ones to survive a sepsis. 1472 00:58:06,379 --> 00:58:07,725 But as things are going, 1473 00:58:07,829 --> 00:58:09,934 that's becoming increasingly unlikely, 1474 00:58:10,038 --> 00:58:13,869 because not only of the overuse of antibiotics in general 1475 00:58:13,973 --> 00:58:16,044 but specifically the overuse of them 1476 00:58:16,147 --> 00:58:18,598 when we give them to animals for us to eat. 1477 00:58:18,702 --> 00:58:21,152 - There was a previous figure quoted 1478 00:58:21,256 --> 00:58:23,741 in the last of round of studies into this 1479 00:58:23,845 --> 00:58:26,641 that it would be 10 million deaths, 1480 00:58:26,744 --> 00:58:28,919 a predicted 10 million deaths a year, 1481 00:58:29,022 --> 00:58:31,991 from antibiotic-resistant infection by 2050. 1482 00:58:32,094 --> 00:58:34,269 And the fact that we've intensified our agriculture 1483 00:58:34,372 --> 00:58:38,169 and we're pumping over 70% of the world's antibiotics 1484 00:58:38,273 --> 00:58:41,483 into livestock in very inappropriate ways 1485 00:58:41,587 --> 00:58:43,865 just means that it's skyrocketing 1486 00:58:43,968 --> 00:58:47,040 much quicker than we were sort of planning for. 1487 00:58:47,144 --> 00:58:49,456 - [Tom] Now, that really pissed me off. 1488 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:50,941 There's someone very close to me 1489 00:58:51,044 --> 00:58:54,185 that requires antibiotics on a daily basis to survive. 1490 00:58:54,289 --> 00:58:56,705 20 of the 27 antibiotics prescribed to animals 1491 00:58:56,809 --> 00:58:59,708 are vital for humans to be treated with. 1492 00:58:59,812 --> 00:59:01,503 But I couldn't stop. 1493 00:59:01,607 --> 00:59:03,609 There was so much more to learn. 1494 00:59:03,712 --> 00:59:05,783 Next stop, the slaughterhouse. 1495 00:59:06,819 --> 00:59:08,268 I've never been to a slaughterhouse. 1496 00:59:08,372 --> 00:59:09,994 I couldn't tell you where the nearest one is to me, 1497 00:59:10,098 --> 00:59:12,203 despite the fact that there are over 150 in the UK 1498 00:59:12,307 --> 00:59:14,067 and 2,700 in the US. 1499 00:59:15,552 --> 00:59:17,415 - [Investigator] Slaughterhouses are so hidden from society. 1500 00:59:17,519 --> 00:59:22,144 Many have got 24-hour security high perimeter fences. 1501 00:59:22,248 --> 00:59:25,354 You could be mistaken; they were prisons. 1502 00:59:25,458 --> 00:59:27,149 - [Tom] So what's it like inside? 1503 00:59:41,129 --> 00:59:45,789 - The sounds and smells, I still get, they stick with you. 1504 01:00:06,464 --> 01:00:08,501 - The number of animals that need to be killed for a start 1505 01:00:08,605 --> 01:00:12,954 just negates any, like, kindness and, like, gentle handling. 1506 01:00:13,057 --> 01:00:14,887 - [Tom] But how are they killed? 1507 01:00:14,990 --> 01:00:16,716 What are the common practices? 1508 01:00:17,786 --> 01:00:19,408 [fence rattles] 1509 01:00:19,512 --> 01:00:21,203 [cow thudding] 1510 01:00:21,307 --> 01:00:21,825 [gate clanking] 1511 01:00:21,928 --> 01:00:24,068 What makes it humane? 1512 01:00:24,172 --> 01:00:26,105 [fence rattles] 1513 01:00:26,208 --> 01:00:29,833 Cows are stunned using a captive bolt or electricity. 1514 01:00:29,936 --> 01:00:33,353 [gentle somber music] 1515 01:00:33,457 --> 01:00:34,838 Poultry are hung upside down 1516 01:00:34,941 --> 01:00:37,495 and dipped into an electrified water bath to stun them 1517 01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:39,152 before their throats are slit. 1518 01:00:41,051 --> 01:00:43,570 Sheep are stunned and killed with electricity, 1519 01:00:43,674 --> 01:00:44,744 but just like this one here, 1520 01:00:44,848 --> 01:00:46,332 it's not always a quick process. 1521 01:00:51,268 --> 01:00:53,235 Fish are exposed to carbon dioxide, 1522 01:00:53,339 --> 01:00:55,997 bled out without stunning, gutted alive, 1523 01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:57,343 or suffocated out of water. 1524 01:00:58,378 --> 01:00:59,586 And what about pigs? 1525 01:00:59,690 --> 01:01:01,105 How do we get bacon? 1526 01:01:04,143 --> 01:01:05,765 It's either the CO2 gas chamber 1527 01:01:05,869 --> 01:01:08,388 [pigs snarling] 1528 01:01:10,908 --> 01:01:14,878 [gentle somber music continues] 1529 01:01:18,502 --> 01:01:21,229 or electrical stunning, followed by sanguination, 1530 01:01:21,332 --> 01:01:23,300 then transported to a scalding tank. 1531 01:01:31,618 --> 01:01:32,585 - [Alice] Yeah, I mean, 1532 01:01:32,689 --> 01:01:33,862 I've seen pigs swimming around in that, 1533 01:01:33,966 --> 01:01:35,381 like, bleeding to death. 1534 01:01:36,762 --> 01:01:40,800 [gentle somber music continues] 1535 01:01:42,388 --> 01:01:45,978 - I often ask myself, "Would this be okay 1536 01:01:46,081 --> 01:01:48,256 if I was doing this to a human?" 1537 01:01:48,359 --> 01:01:49,775 - [Tom] I've asked everyone I've spoken to 1538 01:01:49,878 --> 01:01:51,638 whether they think humane slaughter is possible 1539 01:01:51,742 --> 01:01:53,917 in today's global farming system. 1540 01:01:54,020 --> 01:01:56,505 I've asked activists, the RSPCA, 1541 01:01:56,609 --> 01:01:58,611 vegans, vegetarians, and omnivores. 1542 01:01:58,715 --> 01:02:00,509 I could go through every answer one by one, 1543 01:02:00,613 --> 01:02:01,510 but I think you already know it. 1544 01:02:01,614 --> 01:02:03,443 And what of the human toll, 1545 01:02:03,547 --> 01:02:05,204 working in these surroundings with these animals? 1546 01:02:05,307 --> 01:02:08,103 What are the physical and psychological effects? 1547 01:02:08,207 --> 01:02:12,901 - Colleagues there who'd get frustrated with the animals 1548 01:02:13,005 --> 01:02:15,732 and take it out on them, take it out on each other. 1549 01:02:15,835 --> 01:02:17,941 - Going home, absolutely traumatized, 1550 01:02:18,044 --> 01:02:20,391 like calling my mum, sobbing on the phone, 1551 01:02:20,495 --> 01:02:22,600 saying, "I've had to shoot another 20 pigs 1552 01:02:22,704 --> 01:02:24,464 because of these welfare issues." 1553 01:02:24,568 --> 01:02:25,742 - I'd go out, 1554 01:02:25,845 --> 01:02:28,330 it got to a stage where if someone looked at me, 1555 01:02:28,434 --> 01:02:30,194 I'd probably go over and headbutt them. 1556 01:02:35,165 --> 01:02:36,097 - [Tom] As the UK and other nations 1557 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,443 struggle to fill this sector, 1558 01:02:37,546 --> 01:02:39,203 it's perhaps unsurprising that the meat industry 1559 01:02:39,307 --> 01:02:41,240 is heavily reliant on migrant workers 1560 01:02:41,343 --> 01:02:43,104 willing to work for far more money 1561 01:02:43,207 --> 01:02:45,244 than they could ever earn in their country of birth, 1562 01:02:45,347 --> 01:02:47,177 creating two-tier working conditions 1563 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,180 with migrants being paid less and expected to work more 1564 01:02:50,283 --> 01:02:51,940 to ensure that the meat could be kept cheap 1565 01:02:52,044 --> 01:02:53,493 and to supply the demand. 1566 01:02:53,597 --> 01:02:56,358 - I think I've found peace with myself over the years 1567 01:02:56,462 --> 01:03:00,397 through how I've changed and what I've done, 1568 01:03:00,500 --> 01:03:03,365 but I still have two, three nights a week 1569 01:03:03,469 --> 01:03:05,436 where I can't sleep at all, 1570 01:03:05,540 --> 01:03:10,303 and I still get those nightmares, and I still get moments 1571 01:03:10,407 --> 01:03:15,274 where you just think, "What's the point?" 1572 01:03:15,964 --> 01:03:16,862 Or "You're worthless." 1573 01:03:16,965 --> 01:03:20,762 Or, you know, "Whatever I do, 1574 01:03:20,866 --> 01:03:22,937 can it ever make up for what I've done?" 1575 01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:24,697 - [Tom] After the animals have been killed, 1576 01:03:24,801 --> 01:03:25,940 what's the meat line like? 1577 01:03:26,043 --> 01:03:27,458 - For starters, there's a lot of diseases 1578 01:03:27,562 --> 01:03:30,668 that we can pick up from pigs and other animals anyway. 1579 01:03:30,772 --> 01:03:34,224 Like, you can't see pathogens. 1580 01:03:34,327 --> 01:03:36,640 - [Tom] 48 million people get sick in the US each year 1581 01:03:36,743 --> 01:03:38,262 with foodborne illnesses. 1582 01:03:38,366 --> 01:03:41,265 Nearly 3/4 of all chicken sold in UK supermarkets 1583 01:03:41,369 --> 01:03:43,440 have previously been found to be contaminated 1584 01:03:43,543 --> 01:03:44,924 with campylobacter. 1585 01:03:45,028 --> 01:03:48,548 And in the US, 60% of pork, 70% of beef, 1586 01:03:48,652 --> 01:03:52,069 and 80% of chicken is contaminated with E. coli. 1587 01:03:52,173 --> 01:03:53,519 It's not just pathogens either. 1588 01:03:53,622 --> 01:03:55,417 When the UN published its list of the seven causes 1589 01:03:55,521 --> 01:03:57,868 driving the risk of zoonotic diseases, 1590 01:03:57,972 --> 01:04:00,560 six of them were linked to animal agriculture. 1591 01:04:00,664 --> 01:04:01,665 [pigs snorting] 1592 01:04:01,768 --> 01:04:03,425 After the cows, and sheep, and pigs, 1593 01:04:03,529 --> 01:04:05,427 and all the other farmed animals are slaughtered, 1594 01:04:05,531 --> 01:04:08,223 we have our beef, our lamb, our bacon, 1595 01:04:08,327 --> 01:04:09,707 but is it actually any good for us? 1596 01:04:09,811 --> 01:04:12,710 If we were to take alcohol, something which most people 1597 01:04:12,814 --> 01:04:14,195 wouldn't constitute to be healthy, 1598 01:04:14,298 --> 01:04:15,610 but manage to add the likes 1599 01:04:15,713 --> 01:04:18,095 of some branched-chain amino acids and iron to it, 1600 01:04:18,199 --> 01:04:20,373 would that suddenly make it healthy? 1601 01:04:20,477 --> 01:04:23,169 So why does a food that the World Health Organization 1602 01:04:23,273 --> 01:04:26,690 categorizes as a carcinogen, or probable carcinogen, 1603 01:04:26,793 --> 01:04:28,036 suddenly become healthy 1604 01:04:28,140 --> 01:04:30,797 because it contains the likes of protein and iron 1605 01:04:30,901 --> 01:04:32,213 when these are readily available 1606 01:04:32,316 --> 01:04:34,456 from non-carcinogenic foods? 1607 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:36,976 - Again, it comes back to thinking about the healthy food 1608 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,013 rather than the individual nutrients. 1609 01:04:43,914 --> 01:04:46,158 - [Tom] I'm a bit nervous, I'm not gonna lie. 1610 01:04:46,261 --> 01:04:49,713 Susanna's combined lifts put her on 313 kilograms, 1611 01:04:49,816 --> 01:04:53,406 while Sophia's combined lifts total just 288 kilograms. 1612 01:04:53,510 --> 01:04:54,994 [tense suspenseful music] 1613 01:04:55,098 --> 01:04:56,064 That means Sophia needs to lift 1614 01:04:56,168 --> 01:04:57,894 25 kilograms more on the deadlift 1615 01:04:57,997 --> 01:04:59,481 just to draw even with Susanna. 1616 01:04:59,585 --> 01:05:03,071 Her deadlift's impressive, really impressive; 1617 01:05:03,175 --> 01:05:05,349 she's not the British record holder for nothing, 1618 01:05:05,453 --> 01:05:06,557 but she needs to hit that weight here 1619 01:05:06,661 --> 01:05:08,974 and hope that Susanna doesn't lift a PB; 1620 01:05:09,077 --> 01:05:11,010 otherwise, she's in trouble. 1621 01:05:11,114 --> 01:05:12,978 And so we're on to round three. 1622 01:05:13,081 --> 01:05:14,358 Over the three attempts, 1623 01:05:14,462 --> 01:05:18,915 Susanna lifts a very impressive 197.5 kilograms. 1624 01:05:19,018 --> 01:05:21,434 Sophia has got her work cut out for her. 1625 01:05:24,023 --> 01:05:26,405 Back in Barcelona, and we've lost Mike. 1626 01:05:27,647 --> 01:05:30,167 Or at least, we'd not had contact for a few hours 1627 01:05:30,271 --> 01:05:31,755 and were starting to fear 1628 01:05:31,858 --> 01:05:33,101 something terrible might have happened. 1629 01:05:34,275 --> 01:05:36,415 But then, finally, after almost seven hours, 1630 01:05:36,518 --> 01:05:38,727 Mike showed up at the checkpoint. 1631 01:05:38,831 --> 01:05:40,419 Although it was clear 1632 01:05:40,522 --> 01:05:42,800 he'd had an extremely challenging night on the mountains. 1633 01:05:42,904 --> 01:05:45,148 - I was tripping my face off all night. 1634 01:05:45,251 --> 01:05:46,459 - Oh, dear. - Oh, imagine. 1635 01:05:46,563 --> 01:05:47,978 - It was mental. 1636 01:05:49,324 --> 01:05:50,705 I was pretty hungry, actually. 1637 01:05:53,639 --> 01:05:57,194 At some points, I just didn't know what was going on. 1638 01:05:57,298 --> 01:06:00,611 Like, full-on, like, forgot what I was doing there. 1639 01:06:02,061 --> 01:06:03,442 I was sort of thinking at the time, 1640 01:06:03,545 --> 01:06:05,892 "This may be a bit irresponsible." 1641 01:06:05,996 --> 01:06:08,274 [group laughing] 1642 01:06:08,378 --> 01:06:10,483 - [Tom] Mike sets off for the final 43K. 1643 01:06:10,587 --> 01:06:11,795 - [Mike] Beats working. 1644 01:06:11,898 --> 01:06:13,900 - [Tom] It's clear how unbelievably exhausted he is. 1645 01:06:14,004 --> 01:06:15,695 And I can't help but wonder 1646 01:06:15,799 --> 01:06:17,628 if he's actually gonna make it to the finish, 1647 01:06:17,732 --> 01:06:19,423 let alone break the record. 1648 01:06:20,804 --> 01:06:23,945 But back in Taunton, Paul's still in high spirits. 1649 01:06:24,049 --> 01:06:25,740 [footsteps crunching] 1650 01:06:25,843 --> 01:06:29,261 So Paul, what would you say is the key to a happy life? 1651 01:06:29,364 --> 01:06:31,125 - Well, I would say giving. 1652 01:06:31,228 --> 01:06:33,058 Giving of yourself, giving of your time, 1653 01:06:34,266 --> 01:06:37,717 giving of your energy, whatever you're good at. 1654 01:06:37,821 --> 01:06:41,721 Helping people, helping other fellow creatures. 1655 01:06:41,825 --> 01:06:42,515 Yeah, giving. 1656 01:06:44,207 --> 01:06:45,587 - [Tom] But there was no denying 1657 01:06:45,691 --> 01:06:47,451 it was starting to feel tough, and the ridiculous hills 1658 01:06:47,555 --> 01:06:49,522 and baking heat certainly weren't helping. 1659 01:06:52,146 --> 01:06:53,906 It's a big hill. 1660 01:06:54,010 --> 01:06:55,218 - [Paul] Yeah. 1661 01:06:55,321 --> 01:06:57,116 - [Tom] And we are on 1662 01:06:58,566 --> 01:07:01,017 21.65 miles. 1663 01:07:05,055 --> 01:07:06,643 But at the final checkpoint, 1664 01:07:06,746 --> 01:07:08,714 Paul still insisted on doing his press-ups. 1665 01:07:10,405 --> 01:07:11,337 - 37K. 1666 01:07:11,441 --> 01:07:12,752 - [Tom] Before we knew it, 1667 01:07:12,856 --> 01:07:14,823 we were into the final leg with eight miles to go. 1668 01:07:14,927 --> 01:07:15,928 - Feeling good. 1669 01:07:16,032 --> 01:07:17,757 - Feeling good? - Yeah, feeling great. 1670 01:07:17,861 --> 01:07:20,484 [bell dings] 1671 01:07:20,588 --> 01:07:23,315 - [Tom] I've made a terrible omission from this process. 1672 01:07:24,626 --> 01:07:26,490 We're gonna have to go back to the start. 1673 01:07:28,182 --> 01:07:31,875 Earth, a mesh of verdant greens and cerulean waters. 1674 01:07:31,978 --> 01:07:33,118 A magnificent sight. 1675 01:07:33,221 --> 01:07:35,534 A planet full of wonder. 1676 01:07:35,637 --> 01:07:37,570 But almost everything we do on this wondrous planet 1677 01:07:37,674 --> 01:07:38,640 has an effect. 1678 01:07:38,744 --> 01:07:40,642 From brushing our teeth and flushing the toilet 1679 01:07:40,746 --> 01:07:43,093 to the way we travel and the food we eat. 1680 01:07:43,197 --> 01:07:44,336 The industries and sectors around the world 1681 01:07:44,439 --> 01:07:46,234 have an even bigger impact. 1682 01:07:46,338 --> 01:07:48,202 Some more than others. 1683 01:07:48,995 --> 01:07:50,618 And right now, billionaires, 1684 01:07:50,721 --> 01:07:52,585 who may or may not be living in lairs, 1685 01:07:52,689 --> 01:07:54,898 the type seen housing villains in Bond movies, 1686 01:07:55,001 --> 01:07:57,073 are concocting ways to get to Mars. 1687 01:07:57,176 --> 01:07:59,454 It's unclear if we're invited. 1688 01:07:59,558 --> 01:08:02,630 But compared to Earth, let's be honest, Mars looks shit. 1689 01:08:03,424 --> 01:08:05,150 Earth should be priority. 1690 01:08:05,253 --> 01:08:08,498 And for a few, it is, and it has been for some time. 1691 01:08:08,601 --> 01:08:10,431 Ever since the Industrial Revolution, 1692 01:08:10,534 --> 01:08:12,916 people have discussed the effects humans have on the planet. 1693 01:08:13,019 --> 01:08:15,608 In 1970, we had the first Earth Day. 1694 01:08:15,712 --> 01:08:18,749 By 1979, the World Climate Research Programme was launched. 1695 01:08:18,853 --> 01:08:22,443 And by 1990, the IPCC warned that the world had been warming 1696 01:08:22,546 --> 01:08:25,135 and future warming is likely. 1697 01:08:25,239 --> 01:08:27,448 Subsequent IPCC reports were worded firmer, 1698 01:08:27,551 --> 01:08:29,312 causing global leaders in 2015 1699 01:08:29,415 --> 01:08:30,554 to sign the Paris Climate Agreement 1700 01:08:30,658 --> 01:08:32,246 with a plan to prevent global heating 1701 01:08:32,349 --> 01:08:35,041 of 1.5 degrees above industrial levels 1702 01:08:35,145 --> 01:08:36,560 while saying things like: 1703 01:08:40,116 --> 01:08:44,292 - [Tom] In 2018, the IPCC told them to stand as one faster. 1704 01:08:44,396 --> 01:08:48,054 And by 2023, the world was getting hot. 1705 01:08:48,158 --> 01:08:49,263 Really hot. 1706 01:08:49,366 --> 01:08:51,092 And as people from the UK can attest, 1707 01:08:51,196 --> 01:08:52,714 that's not all we're known for. 1708 01:08:52,818 --> 01:08:54,406 In fact, around the globe, 1709 01:08:54,509 --> 01:08:56,132 all sorts of disastrous weather-related events 1710 01:08:56,235 --> 01:08:57,271 were occurring. 1711 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,895 - I don't think many people grasp just how serious this is. 1712 01:09:00,998 --> 01:09:04,726 This is the greatest catastrophe humanity has ever faced. 1713 01:09:04,830 --> 01:09:07,384 The collapse of our life support systems. 1714 01:09:07,488 --> 01:09:11,699 We're just sort of staggering towards the precipice. 1715 01:09:11,802 --> 01:09:14,150 Almost as if we're saying to ourselves, 1716 01:09:14,253 --> 01:09:16,324 "If it were really so bad, someone would stop us, 1717 01:09:16,428 --> 01:09:17,394 wouldn't they?" 1718 01:09:17,498 --> 01:09:18,533 - [Tom] So why don't they? 1719 01:09:18,637 --> 01:09:19,569 Why aren't governments doing more? 1720 01:09:19,672 --> 01:09:21,571 - It's the issue above all others 1721 01:09:21,674 --> 01:09:23,504 that they don't wanna talk about. 1722 01:09:23,607 --> 01:09:26,990 Because even when, for instance, Joe Biden said something 1723 01:09:27,093 --> 01:09:29,026 very tentative about meat, 1724 01:09:29,130 --> 01:09:31,374 suddenly there was this massive pile on: 1725 01:09:31,477 --> 01:09:33,307 "They wanna steal our burgers! 1726 01:09:33,410 --> 01:09:36,413 They're trying to destroy the American dream!" 1727 01:09:36,517 --> 01:09:39,416 The lobbyists are unbelievably powerful, 1728 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,833 partly because it's extremely concentrated. 1729 01:09:42,937 --> 01:09:44,594 There are just a handful of firms 1730 01:09:44,697 --> 01:09:46,906 who control almost all the beef, 1731 01:09:47,010 --> 01:09:49,288 and another handful controlling almost all the pork, 1732 01:09:49,392 --> 01:09:50,634 almost all the poultry. 1733 01:09:50,738 --> 01:09:53,948 So, those companies become extremely powerful, 1734 01:09:54,051 --> 01:09:55,674 more powerful than many governments. 1735 01:09:55,777 --> 01:09:59,643 Nothing is as visceral, literally and metaphorically, 1736 01:09:59,747 --> 01:10:00,851 as what we eat. 1737 01:10:00,955 --> 01:10:02,267 - [Tom] You might be wondering what all of this has to do 1738 01:10:02,370 --> 01:10:03,992 with the climate crisis. 1739 01:10:04,096 --> 01:10:07,548 So, in 2018, a team of researchers from Oxford University 1740 01:10:07,651 --> 01:10:08,894 carried out the largest-ever study 1741 01:10:08,997 --> 01:10:10,965 on the effects of our global food system. 1742 01:10:11,068 --> 01:10:14,106 They assessed nearly 40,000 farms across the globe 1743 01:10:14,210 --> 01:10:16,350 and 40 different agricultural products, 1744 01:10:16,453 --> 01:10:19,525 focusing on the use of land, greenhouse gas emissions, 1745 01:10:19,629 --> 01:10:22,425 water usage, acidification, and eutrophication. 1746 01:10:22,528 --> 01:10:24,150 [tense thoughtful music] 1747 01:10:24,254 --> 01:10:26,118 They concluded that the single biggest thing 1748 01:10:26,222 --> 01:10:29,121 we as individuals can do to lower our environmental impact 1749 01:10:29,225 --> 01:10:32,193 is to reduce or eliminate animal products from our diets. 1750 01:10:32,297 --> 01:10:34,091 And then in 2023, 1751 01:10:34,195 --> 01:10:36,922 another ground-breaking study from Oxford University 1752 01:10:37,025 --> 01:10:40,270 assessed the dietary patterns of 55,000 people, 1753 01:10:40,374 --> 01:10:43,031 highlighting further just how much more destructive 1754 01:10:43,135 --> 01:10:45,171 high and low-meat diets are for the planet's health 1755 01:10:45,275 --> 01:10:47,104 compared to a vegan diet. 1756 01:10:47,208 --> 01:10:49,417 Yet despite this, I'm forever hearing people tell me 1757 01:10:49,521 --> 01:10:52,006 they only buy local, grass-fed beef. 1758 01:10:52,109 --> 01:10:54,836 And on the surface, that statement sounds logical. 1759 01:10:54,940 --> 01:10:57,598 I mean, transporting goods has an environmental impact, 1760 01:10:57,701 --> 01:11:00,842 but as it turns out, probably not as much as you'd think. 1761 01:11:00,946 --> 01:11:03,259 I was shocked to learn that transportation of beef 1762 01:11:03,362 --> 01:11:06,986 only accounts for 0.5% of its total emissions. 1763 01:11:07,090 --> 01:11:09,092 We shouldn't disregard the impact of travel, 1764 01:11:09,195 --> 01:11:12,060 but to imply switching to local beef as the solution 1765 01:11:12,164 --> 01:11:15,719 to a climate emergency rather than to plant-based protein 1766 01:11:15,823 --> 01:11:17,963 would only really make sense if the plant-based protein 1767 01:11:18,066 --> 01:11:19,827 and the beef had the same environmental impact 1768 01:11:19,930 --> 01:11:22,623 before that transportation was taken into account. 1769 01:11:22,726 --> 01:11:26,143 And it's not even close in any of the areas measured. 1770 01:11:26,247 --> 01:11:28,594 I was also having a hard time with the term "grass-fed." 1771 01:11:28,698 --> 01:11:30,562 Grass-fed simply means animals only have to spend 1772 01:11:30,665 --> 01:11:32,978 part of their life out grazing in fields. 1773 01:11:33,081 --> 01:11:34,428 Grass-finished beef, 1774 01:11:34,531 --> 01:11:36,775 whereby the animals eat nothing but grass or forage, 1775 01:11:36,878 --> 01:11:38,466 is far less common. 1776 01:11:38,570 --> 01:11:41,607 In the US, less than 1% of beef is farmed this way. 1777 01:11:41,711 --> 01:11:43,506 Despite that figure being so low, 1778 01:11:43,609 --> 01:11:46,750 if everyone globally ate the average US citizen's diet, 1779 01:11:46,854 --> 01:11:48,994 we'd need to use the entire planet's habitable land 1780 01:11:49,097 --> 01:11:53,067 for agriculture, and we'd still be 38% short. 1781 01:11:53,170 --> 01:11:55,345 The country with the largest dietary land requirement 1782 01:11:55,449 --> 01:11:56,588 is New Zealand. 1783 01:11:56,691 --> 01:11:57,934 That's a country where grass-fed beef 1784 01:11:58,037 --> 01:12:00,868 and lamb contributes enormously to people's diets. 1785 01:12:00,971 --> 01:12:01,938 If every one of us 1786 01:12:02,041 --> 01:12:03,526 suddenly started eating like a New Zealander, 1787 01:12:03,629 --> 01:12:06,114 we'd need another planet almost the size of Earth 1788 01:12:06,218 --> 01:12:07,875 just to sustain us all. 1789 01:12:07,978 --> 01:12:09,566 In a world where we're trying to figure out 1790 01:12:09,670 --> 01:12:11,982 how to feed in excess of eight billion people, 1791 01:12:12,086 --> 01:12:14,330 it's not really the definition of sustainable 1792 01:12:14,433 --> 01:12:16,539 if only a handful can eat this way. 1793 01:12:16,642 --> 01:12:17,678 - We're constantly being told 1794 01:12:17,781 --> 01:12:19,852 the problem is intensive farming. 1795 01:12:19,956 --> 01:12:20,888 And so people then say, 1796 01:12:20,991 --> 01:12:22,683 "Well, the answer is extensive farming. 1797 01:12:22,786 --> 01:12:24,443 Let's have free-range grazing 1798 01:12:24,547 --> 01:12:26,376 and the animals outdoors and stuff." 1799 01:12:26,480 --> 01:12:30,069 But that has massive problems of its own. 1800 01:12:30,173 --> 01:12:32,037 I really try to hammer this home 1801 01:12:32,140 --> 01:12:33,590 because people don't get it. 1802 01:12:33,694 --> 01:12:36,904 But the more land that humans take for their activities, 1803 01:12:37,007 --> 01:12:38,802 the less land there is for nature, 1804 01:12:38,906 --> 01:12:41,840 the less land there is for fully functioning ecosystems. 1805 01:12:41,943 --> 01:12:45,291 Grazing is a fantastically inefficient way 1806 01:12:45,395 --> 01:12:47,328 of producing food. 1807 01:12:47,432 --> 01:12:48,294 - [Tom] So, what about this idea 1808 01:12:48,398 --> 01:12:49,813 that we'd need even more land 1809 01:12:49,917 --> 01:12:52,609 to grow plants for people to eat if the world went vegan? 1810 01:12:52,713 --> 01:12:54,611 - But, actually, the figures show very clearly 1811 01:12:54,715 --> 01:12:56,372 that not only do you retire 1812 01:12:56,475 --> 01:12:59,305 all that land used for livestock grazing 1813 01:12:59,409 --> 01:13:00,893 and allow the trees to come back, 1814 01:13:00,997 --> 01:13:03,379 allow the wild ecosystems to come back, 1815 01:13:03,482 --> 01:13:06,968 you also would retire 19% of all the arable land. 1816 01:13:07,072 --> 01:13:10,524 We'd be using less arable land than we are today. 1817 01:13:10,627 --> 01:13:12,146 - [Tom] The stats around the sheer amount of land 1818 01:13:12,249 --> 01:13:15,701 required for animal agriculture were mind-blowing. 1819 01:13:15,805 --> 01:13:19,222 Over 1/3 of the entire world's landmass is used for farming. 1820 01:13:19,325 --> 01:13:22,501 Over 40% of the US, and almost 70% of land in England, 1821 01:13:22,605 --> 01:13:25,677 and a massive 83% of the land used globally for farming 1822 01:13:25,780 --> 01:13:27,299 is for animal agriculture. 1823 01:13:27,403 --> 01:13:30,751 Yet, it provides only 18% of calories. 1824 01:13:30,854 --> 01:13:33,788 Now, that really is fantastically inefficient. 1825 01:13:33,892 --> 01:13:36,342 Almost 1/2 of all the world's habitable land 1826 01:13:36,446 --> 01:13:37,896 is used for farming. 1827 01:13:37,999 --> 01:13:39,345 Just to pull that into perspective, 1828 01:13:39,449 --> 01:13:42,383 only 1% is defined as urban sprawl. 1829 01:13:42,487 --> 01:13:44,281 The land used for farming dwarfs 1830 01:13:44,385 --> 01:13:46,594 that used for towns and cities. 1831 01:13:46,698 --> 01:13:48,665 Amazingly, if the world was somehow to move 1832 01:13:48,769 --> 01:13:52,704 to a plant-based diet, we'd require 76% less farmland. 1833 01:13:53,843 --> 01:13:56,259 But let's be real, that can't include soya. 1834 01:13:56,362 --> 01:13:58,157 Because if there's one plant that I keep hearing about 1835 01:13:58,261 --> 01:14:01,091 over and over, how it's destroying the planet, 1836 01:14:01,195 --> 01:14:02,507 unbalancing women's hormones, 1837 01:14:02,610 --> 01:14:05,544 and giving men massive breasts, it's soya. 1838 01:14:05,648 --> 01:14:07,063 - I think people, again, 1839 01:14:07,166 --> 01:14:10,584 are not so used to eating minimally processed soya foods 1840 01:14:10,687 --> 01:14:14,415 like tofu, and tempeh, and miso, and soya milks, 1841 01:14:14,519 --> 01:14:16,037 but they're so healthy. 1842 01:14:16,141 --> 01:14:20,525 They've been associated with so many good health properties, 1843 01:14:20,628 --> 01:14:22,216 such as lowering your cholesterol, 1844 01:14:22,319 --> 01:14:24,908 reducing your chance of breast cancer and prostate cancer, 1845 01:14:25,012 --> 01:14:26,807 reducing your risk of heart disease. 1846 01:14:26,910 --> 01:14:29,361 And they probably can't think of another food 1847 01:14:29,465 --> 01:14:32,571 that's been so well established in the medical literature 1848 01:14:32,675 --> 01:14:34,711 at being good for us as humans. 1849 01:14:34,815 --> 01:14:37,024 - [Tom] Okay, so it's healthy, but what about the land? 1850 01:14:37,127 --> 01:14:39,026 Are vegans part of the problem by eating soya? 1851 01:14:39,129 --> 01:14:41,718 - So, people say, "Oh, you tofu eaters, 1852 01:14:41,822 --> 01:14:44,376 you know, you're the ones who are causing the deforestation 1853 01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:45,998 of the Amazon because of all the soya 1854 01:14:46,102 --> 01:14:47,379 being grown to feed you." 1855 01:14:47,483 --> 01:14:52,177 No, almost all that soya is being used to feed farm animals. 1856 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,042 There's more soya in a piece of chicken breast 1857 01:14:55,145 --> 01:14:57,734 than there is in the same weight of tofu. 1858 01:14:57,838 --> 01:14:59,391 - [Tom] Well, bugger me. 1859 01:14:59,495 --> 01:15:01,945 If only 7% of soya grown is eaten by humans, 1860 01:15:02,049 --> 01:15:04,776 and 73% of it goes to feed animals, 1861 01:15:04,879 --> 01:15:06,674 why the hell do people say it's vegans 1862 01:15:06,778 --> 01:15:08,504 causing deforestation? 1863 01:15:08,607 --> 01:15:10,333 It turns out humans don't just say silly things; 1864 01:15:10,436 --> 01:15:11,921 we do silly things, too. 1865 01:15:12,024 --> 01:15:15,372 Humans make up a mere 0.01% of all biomass, 1866 01:15:15,476 --> 01:15:17,340 yet somehow we've collectively wiped out 1867 01:15:17,443 --> 01:15:19,584 83% of all wild mammals. 1868 01:15:19,687 --> 01:15:21,240 But where you could forgive our ancestors 1869 01:15:21,344 --> 01:15:22,828 for their blissful ignorance 1870 01:15:22,932 --> 01:15:24,692 in the effect they had during their hunter-gatherer days, 1871 01:15:24,796 --> 01:15:26,314 the move to farming, 1872 01:15:26,418 --> 01:15:28,247 and in particular, what occurred before our very eyes 1873 01:15:28,351 --> 01:15:30,802 during the great acceleration of the 20th century, 1874 01:15:30,905 --> 01:15:32,804 is becoming harder to forgive. 1875 01:15:32,907 --> 01:15:35,289 Between 1900 and the year 2000, 1876 01:15:35,392 --> 01:15:36,739 humans farmed as much land as we had 1877 01:15:36,842 --> 01:15:39,086 over the previous 10,000 years, 1878 01:15:39,189 --> 01:15:41,675 causing further species extinction around the globe. 1879 01:15:41,778 --> 01:15:44,470 This century, it's accelerated further still, 1880 01:15:44,574 --> 01:15:47,094 as 10,000 acres of rainforest fall every day. 1881 01:15:47,197 --> 01:15:50,062 And in 2019, the Bramble Cay melomys 1882 01:15:50,166 --> 01:15:52,030 became the first documented extinction 1883 01:15:52,133 --> 01:15:54,273 attributed to human-induced climate change. 1884 01:15:54,377 --> 01:15:56,172 They certainly won't be the last. 1885 01:15:56,275 --> 01:15:58,588 We're facing the sixth great mass extinction; 1886 01:15:58,692 --> 01:16:00,763 only this time we have the indignity 1887 01:16:00,866 --> 01:16:03,766 of having to accept that this one is caused by us. 1888 01:16:03,869 --> 01:16:05,699 But it's worth pointing out that, as a species, 1889 01:16:05,802 --> 01:16:07,908 we're also capable of great things. 1890 01:16:08,011 --> 01:16:09,461 Certain humans are doing their best to try 1891 01:16:09,565 --> 01:16:11,152 and fix this crisis. 1892 01:16:11,256 --> 01:16:14,570 Rather than take land, they're giving it back to nature. 1893 01:16:14,673 --> 01:16:16,295 And I was curious to see just how quickly 1894 01:16:16,399 --> 01:16:18,919 we can start to see a difference in the land's biodiversity 1895 01:16:19,022 --> 01:16:20,334 if we rewild it. 1896 01:16:20,437 --> 01:16:21,577 - In the first year, 1897 01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,440 I started seeing massive amounts of insects. 1898 01:16:23,544 --> 01:16:26,789 Those insects brought back rarer birds. 1899 01:16:26,892 --> 01:16:28,963 Your stonechats, your warblers. 1900 01:16:29,067 --> 01:16:32,104 Then came the buzzards, then the red kites, 1901 01:16:32,208 --> 01:16:34,590 then the peregrine falcon appeared. 1902 01:16:34,693 --> 01:16:36,177 Then we had the woodpeckers. 1903 01:16:36,281 --> 01:16:39,595 That's in two years of rewilding, my style. 1904 01:16:40,699 --> 01:16:42,908 Who knows what we could do in 20 years? 1905 01:16:43,012 --> 01:16:45,014 - [Tom] It was incredible to see firsthand, 1906 01:16:45,117 --> 01:16:47,188 and I found countless other examples around the globe 1907 01:16:47,292 --> 01:16:50,226 where rewilding projects were yielding similar results. 1908 01:16:50,329 --> 01:16:51,676 It gave me some hope. 1909 01:16:51,779 --> 01:16:54,299 But unfortunately, it wasn't just the land usage 1910 01:16:54,402 --> 01:16:56,784 causing problems in our global farming system, 1911 01:16:56,888 --> 01:16:59,407 it was also water usage. 1912 01:16:59,511 --> 01:17:00,995 Even almond milk, which undoubtedly 1913 01:17:01,099 --> 01:17:03,722 has a higher environmental impact than oat or soya milk, 1914 01:17:03,826 --> 01:17:06,414 still uses far less water than dairy. 1915 01:17:06,518 --> 01:17:08,002 It's the same with eutrophication, 1916 01:17:08,106 --> 01:17:09,625 which occurs when the environment 1917 01:17:09,728 --> 01:17:11,488 becomes enriched with nutrients such as nitrate 1918 01:17:11,592 --> 01:17:14,457 and phosphorus, increasing the amount of algae growth, 1919 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,633 something I hear very little about in mainstream media. 1920 01:17:17,736 --> 01:17:20,325 - For years, I've been visiting the River Wye. 1921 01:17:20,428 --> 01:17:22,672 It's meant to be protected by law. 1922 01:17:22,776 --> 01:17:25,951 And over the past 10 years, I've seen it go 1923 01:17:26,055 --> 01:17:29,541 from being a thriving ecosystem to an open sewer. 1924 01:17:29,645 --> 01:17:31,301 What the hell has happened to this river? 1925 01:17:31,405 --> 01:17:32,613 What's gone on? 1926 01:17:32,717 --> 01:17:34,926 It's the chicken farms in the catchment, 1927 01:17:35,029 --> 01:17:37,825 some of which have got many tens of thousands 1928 01:17:37,929 --> 01:17:41,173 of chickens in, being bred for either meat or for eggs. 1929 01:17:41,277 --> 01:17:43,762 And it's a huge amount of excrement, 1930 01:17:43,866 --> 01:17:46,040 which those chickens are producing, 1931 01:17:46,144 --> 01:17:47,663 which is being spread on the fields, 1932 01:17:47,766 --> 01:17:49,561 which then washes straight into the river 1933 01:17:49,665 --> 01:17:51,563 because the fields can't absorb it. 1934 01:17:51,667 --> 01:17:53,013 But of course, it doesn't stop there, 1935 01:17:53,116 --> 01:17:55,912 because the rivers go somewhere; they go into the sea. 1936 01:17:56,016 --> 01:17:57,396 And what we're seeing around the world 1937 01:17:57,500 --> 01:18:00,710 is the growth of what biologists call "dead zones." 1938 01:18:00,814 --> 01:18:02,954 And they're called "dead zones" for a reason 1939 01:18:03,057 --> 01:18:04,921 because, at certain depths in the sea, 1940 01:18:05,025 --> 01:18:08,338 there's just nothing living there anymore. 1941 01:18:08,442 --> 01:18:12,239 And so even hundreds of miles downstream 1942 01:18:12,342 --> 01:18:15,552 from where the animal agriculture is happening, 1943 01:18:15,656 --> 01:18:17,520 you'll see these devastating 1944 01:18:17,623 --> 01:18:19,384 ecological effects taking place. 1945 01:18:19,487 --> 01:18:24,354 - There is basically hardly any functioning life 1946 01:18:24,458 --> 01:18:29,325 in that water because the water has become either so toxic 1947 01:18:30,982 --> 01:18:35,745 or has become devoid of any oxygen that no life can exist. 1948 01:18:36,884 --> 01:18:39,404 The term "dead zone" is a very appropriate term. 1949 01:18:40,646 --> 01:18:43,201 - [Tom] The numbers are staggering. 1950 01:18:43,304 --> 01:18:45,065 Right now, in this catchment alone, 1951 01:18:45,168 --> 01:18:46,514 there are 16 million chickens 1952 01:18:46,618 --> 01:18:48,827 on a never-ending conveyor belt. 1953 01:18:48,931 --> 01:18:51,174 I quickly learned this was a global issue, too. 1954 01:18:51,278 --> 01:18:55,213 Rivers the world over, full of shit. 1955 01:18:56,214 --> 01:18:57,456 If you live in a developed nation, 1956 01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:58,941 chances are your waterways are heavily polluted 1957 01:18:59,044 --> 01:19:00,425 because of animal agriculture. 1958 01:19:01,944 --> 01:19:03,842 What about this idea that vegans kill way more insects 1959 01:19:03,946 --> 01:19:05,775 because of eating plants? 1960 01:19:05,879 --> 01:19:07,018 Is there any truth to that? 1961 01:19:07,121 --> 01:19:08,847 Arable farming does have some issues. 1962 01:19:08,951 --> 01:19:10,366 It can be destructive 1963 01:19:10,469 --> 01:19:12,057 if farmers rely too heavily on the likes of pesticides 1964 01:19:12,161 --> 01:19:14,680 and fertilizers, but it doesn't need to be that way. 1965 01:19:14,784 --> 01:19:15,820 [birds chirping] 1966 01:19:15,923 --> 01:19:17,200 - [Iain] Here on the farm, 1967 01:19:17,304 --> 01:19:19,996 we grow around 100 different types of vegetables. 1968 01:19:20,100 --> 01:19:21,929 A lot of our soil has been badly damaged, 1969 01:19:22,033 --> 01:19:24,138 but soils can be recovered. 1970 01:19:24,242 --> 01:19:26,416 What we grow on the farm is biodiversity. 1971 01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,730 So, the biodiversity comes first, vegetables come second. 1972 01:19:29,834 --> 01:19:31,663 [deep thoughtful music] 1973 01:19:31,767 --> 01:19:33,044 - [Tom] Iain was defying everything I'd heard 1974 01:19:33,147 --> 01:19:35,356 about traditional organic farming methods. 1975 01:19:35,460 --> 01:19:38,118 He didn't use manure; he didn't use pesticides; 1976 01:19:38,221 --> 01:19:40,706 the land was considered unsuitable for arable farming, 1977 01:19:40,810 --> 01:19:42,708 and yet somehow, it was working. 1978 01:19:42,812 --> 01:19:45,297 Iain Tolhurst is proof there is another way. 1979 01:19:45,401 --> 01:19:47,713 But my main issue with this argument against the vegan diet 1980 01:19:47,817 --> 01:19:50,682 is that the majority of plants grown are feeding animals. 1981 01:19:50,786 --> 01:19:52,132 I'd already learned that if we shifted 1982 01:19:52,235 --> 01:19:53,478 towards a plant-based diet, 1983 01:19:53,581 --> 01:19:56,239 that we'd actually free up 19% of arable land. 1984 01:19:56,343 --> 01:19:58,863 Therefore, less land would be used to grow crops, 1985 01:19:58,966 --> 01:20:00,312 and less insects would die. 1986 01:20:01,762 --> 01:20:03,902 And what about greenhouse gas emissions? 1987 01:20:04,006 --> 01:20:05,076 First sector I think of 1988 01:20:05,179 --> 01:20:06,387 with regards to greenhouse gas emissions 1989 01:20:06,491 --> 01:20:08,079 is the fossil fuel industry. 1990 01:20:08,182 --> 01:20:09,425 So, I was surprised to learn 1991 01:20:09,528 --> 01:20:12,083 that even if we eliminate fossil fuels completely, 1992 01:20:12,186 --> 01:20:13,981 the emissions from animal agriculture alone 1993 01:20:14,085 --> 01:20:15,914 make it impossible to prevent the planet warming 1994 01:20:16,018 --> 01:20:19,055 to 1.5 degrees above pre-industrial levels. 1995 01:20:19,159 --> 01:20:20,954 And that's because the agricultural industry 1996 01:20:21,057 --> 01:20:22,300 emits more greenhouse gas emissions 1997 01:20:22,403 --> 01:20:24,716 than the entire transport sector. 1998 01:20:24,820 --> 01:20:25,993 Yet despite this, 1999 01:20:26,097 --> 01:20:27,753 I keep finding claims that animal agriculture, 2000 01:20:27,857 --> 01:20:30,066 and more specifically regenerative grazing, 2001 01:20:30,170 --> 01:20:33,242 is one of, if not the solution. 2002 01:20:33,345 --> 01:20:35,589 - So now we talk about regenerative grazing, 2003 01:20:35,692 --> 01:20:39,420 formerly known as grazing, and it tries to spin 2004 01:20:39,524 --> 01:20:41,388 what they're doing as something completely different. 2005 01:20:41,491 --> 01:20:43,597 "Oh, we're restoring the ecosystem. 2006 01:20:43,700 --> 01:20:48,636 We're restoring soil carbon by grazing the land." 2007 01:20:48,740 --> 01:20:49,568 No, you're not. 2008 01:20:49,672 --> 01:20:51,363 In fact, there is a study; 2009 01:20:51,467 --> 01:20:54,919 it was a meta-analysis of 300 studies from around the world 2010 01:20:55,022 --> 01:20:56,437 which looked into this question 2011 01:20:56,541 --> 01:20:59,578 and found there wasn't a single instance 2012 01:20:59,682 --> 01:21:02,650 of grazing storing more carbon 2013 01:21:02,754 --> 01:21:05,584 than the greenhouse gases which the animals were producing. 2014 01:21:05,688 --> 01:21:08,691 It's what's called the "carbon opportunity cost" 2015 01:21:08,794 --> 01:21:10,382 and the "ecological opportunity cost." 2016 01:21:10,486 --> 01:21:12,971 Because it's not just that livestock farming 2017 01:21:13,075 --> 01:21:16,768 is a massive contributor to greenhouse gas emissions, 2018 01:21:16,872 --> 01:21:21,911 it's also the biggest cause of ecological destruction. 2019 01:21:23,188 --> 01:21:24,086 - [Tom] I thought the main benefit of rewilding 2020 01:21:24,189 --> 01:21:25,363 was the increased biodiversity. 2021 01:21:25,466 --> 01:21:27,020 And while it's undoubtedly incredible to see 2022 01:21:27,123 --> 01:21:29,643 the thriving ecosystems at Dunsany Castle, 2023 01:21:29,746 --> 01:21:31,956 it seems the greatest gain in rewilding of forests 2024 01:21:32,059 --> 01:21:33,750 and wetlands across our continent and beyond 2025 01:21:33,854 --> 01:21:35,338 is the opportunity it provides 2026 01:21:35,442 --> 01:21:37,720 in drawing carbon from our atmosphere and sequestering it. 2027 01:21:37,823 --> 01:21:40,343 It was starting to become clear why the science says 2028 01:21:40,447 --> 01:21:43,726 that plant-based diets can reduce emissions by up to 73%. 2029 01:21:43,829 --> 01:21:44,969 Today's global farming model 2030 01:21:45,072 --> 01:21:46,694 is a Neolithic production system 2031 01:21:46,798 --> 01:21:48,696 that simply wasn't designed to feed 2032 01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,009 in excess of eight billion people. 2033 01:21:51,113 --> 01:21:53,632 It just isn't sustainable. 2034 01:21:53,736 --> 01:21:55,807 There was so much to digest. 2035 01:21:55,911 --> 01:21:57,843 I felt like I hadn't scratched the surface. 2036 01:21:57,947 --> 01:21:59,500 One thing really bugging me 2037 01:21:59,604 --> 01:22:01,468 was the level of emissions created from farmed fishing. 2038 01:22:01,571 --> 01:22:03,228 [tense thoughtful music] 2039 01:22:03,332 --> 01:22:05,610 For years, oily fish has been regarded as a health food, 2040 01:22:05,713 --> 01:22:07,025 in part because it contains 2041 01:22:07,129 --> 01:22:09,614 the long-chain omega-3 fatty acids EPA and DHA. 2042 01:22:11,374 --> 01:22:12,962 But is it possible to get omega-3 fatty acids 2043 01:22:13,066 --> 01:22:14,999 from plant foods? 2044 01:22:15,102 --> 01:22:17,794 - I recommend that it's wise for plant-based eaters 2045 01:22:17,898 --> 01:22:22,144 to have a couple of servings of omega-3-rich plant foods 2046 01:22:22,247 --> 01:22:25,699 such as walnuts or a couple of tablespoons of ground flax 2047 01:22:25,802 --> 01:22:27,252 or chia seeds. 2048 01:22:27,356 --> 01:22:28,702 - [Tom] It turns out that a number of plant-based foods 2049 01:22:28,805 --> 01:22:30,497 contain a short-chain omega-3 fatty acid called ALA, 2050 01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,326 which the body then converts into EPA 2051 01:22:32,430 --> 01:22:34,535 and DHA when readily available. 2052 01:22:34,639 --> 01:22:36,089 But what about people who worry about the price 2053 01:22:36,192 --> 01:22:38,815 of ALA-rich foods or that perhaps they couldn't eat enough 2054 01:22:38,919 --> 01:22:40,162 to meet the conversion rate? 2055 01:22:40,265 --> 01:22:42,302 Are there EPA and DHA sources for vegans? 2056 01:22:42,405 --> 01:22:44,511 - A lot of people don't realize 2057 01:22:44,614 --> 01:22:47,238 that actually omega-3 is made by algae, 2058 01:22:47,341 --> 01:22:50,034 and it comes from the algae, not from the fish. 2059 01:22:50,137 --> 01:22:51,759 So you could actually cut out the middleman 2060 01:22:51,863 --> 01:22:53,244 and go straight to the algae. 2061 01:22:53,347 --> 01:22:55,487 Just take a good-quality DHA 2062 01:22:55,591 --> 01:22:57,696 and EPA supplement if you're concerned. 2063 01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:58,835 - [Tom] With the pescatarian diet 2064 01:22:58,939 --> 01:23:01,217 being the most expensive dietary pattern, 2065 01:23:01,321 --> 01:23:03,012 this is an instance where supplementing 2066 01:23:03,116 --> 01:23:05,566 or using the ALA sources would actually be cheaper. 2067 01:23:05,670 --> 01:23:07,741 - I would say that fish isn't necessarily 2068 01:23:07,844 --> 01:23:09,536 the health food that it used to be 2069 01:23:09,639 --> 01:23:11,124 because we are polluting the oceans 2070 01:23:11,227 --> 01:23:14,196 with environmental plastics and heavy metals, dioxins, 2071 01:23:14,299 --> 01:23:18,648 and PCBs, which then bioaccumulate in the fish. 2072 01:23:18,752 --> 01:23:21,858 And of course, when we eat them, we are also bioaccumulating 2073 01:23:21,962 --> 01:23:24,447 those toxins within our own bodies. 2074 01:23:24,551 --> 01:23:26,967 - Pregnant people are required not to have more 2075 01:23:27,071 --> 01:23:29,211 than two servings of oily fish a week 2076 01:23:29,314 --> 01:23:30,936 because of the levels of mercury 2077 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:32,731 and other heavy metals present. 2078 01:23:32,835 --> 01:23:35,044 So, with a food that comes with a health warning, 2079 01:23:35,148 --> 01:23:36,597 why take the risk? 2080 01:23:36,701 --> 01:23:38,323 - [Tom] I was curious about the current state of our oceans. 2081 01:23:38,427 --> 01:23:39,876 How were the fish levels? 2082 01:23:39,980 --> 01:23:43,984 After all, it absorbs around 30% of all global emissions. 2083 01:23:44,088 --> 01:23:45,641 The number of fish killed each year 2084 01:23:45,744 --> 01:23:47,712 dwarfs that of land animals. 2085 01:23:47,815 --> 01:23:49,196 Anywhere from 0.8 2086 01:23:49,300 --> 01:23:52,648 to 2.3 trillion wild fish are killed each year. 2087 01:23:52,751 --> 01:23:54,546 So why are fish offered such little protection 2088 01:23:54,650 --> 01:23:56,755 under law compared to land animals? 2089 01:23:56,859 --> 01:23:59,137 Especially when we know fish are sentient beings, 2090 01:23:59,241 --> 01:24:00,759 they feel pain. 2091 01:24:00,863 --> 01:24:04,729 - With fishes, I feel like, and aquatic animals, 2092 01:24:04,832 --> 01:24:07,628 you know, that they seem so unfamiliar to us. 2093 01:24:07,732 --> 01:24:10,769 And so, I think that perhaps it's harder 2094 01:24:10,873 --> 01:24:13,324 to bridge that disconnection 2095 01:24:13,427 --> 01:24:15,188 than it might be, for, you know, 2096 01:24:15,291 --> 01:24:18,743 the connection between humans and dogs and cats. 2097 01:24:18,846 --> 01:24:20,538 - [Tom] One method used in the fishing industry, 2098 01:24:20,641 --> 01:24:23,299 to me, at least, seems particularly reckless. 2099 01:24:23,403 --> 01:24:25,301 Bottom trawling involves dragging huge nets 2100 01:24:25,405 --> 01:24:27,924 along the ocean floor and damaging it in the process, 2101 01:24:28,028 --> 01:24:29,961 and it scoops up anything in its path. 2102 01:24:30,065 --> 01:24:32,205 Every year, 300,000 dolphins 2103 01:24:32,308 --> 01:24:33,930 and whales are killed as bycatch, 2104 01:24:34,034 --> 01:24:38,211 wiping out species with huge carbon capture potential. 2105 01:24:38,314 --> 01:24:40,178 And it's not just what we're taking from oceans, 2106 01:24:40,282 --> 01:24:41,317 but what we're adding. 2107 01:24:41,421 --> 01:24:43,975 - Fish stocks have depleted 90%. 2108 01:24:44,079 --> 01:24:46,322 And the biggest source of ocean plastic 2109 01:24:46,426 --> 01:24:48,255 is fishing nets that have been discarded. 2110 01:24:48,359 --> 01:24:53,433 - Global wild marine catch for fish peaked 20 years ago. 2111 01:24:54,227 --> 01:24:56,125 Since it's been declined. 2112 01:24:56,229 --> 01:24:58,265 But meanwhile, we have invented a thing 2113 01:24:58,369 --> 01:25:00,095 called aquaculture. 2114 01:25:00,198 --> 01:25:02,821 That's why there is fish still in the supermarkets. 2115 01:25:02,925 --> 01:25:04,823 - [Tom] The overfishing and destruction of our oceans 2116 01:25:04,927 --> 01:25:07,481 has forced us into creating a farmed fishing system. 2117 01:25:07,585 --> 01:25:09,034 And just like pasture-fed beef, 2118 01:25:09,138 --> 01:25:12,590 farmed fish is also incredibly environmentally destructive. 2119 01:25:12,693 --> 01:25:15,075 For every 10 calories farmed fish provide, 2120 01:25:15,179 --> 01:25:17,836 they're given 100 calories themselves. 2121 01:25:17,940 --> 01:25:20,287 And what about the environmental impacts of cheese? 2122 01:25:20,391 --> 01:25:22,772 Cheese is the single biggest reason I ever hear 2123 01:25:22,876 --> 01:25:25,568 as to why vegetarians could never go vegan. 2124 01:25:25,672 --> 01:25:26,569 And I get it. 2125 01:25:26,673 --> 01:25:28,053 I mean, I've tried some vegan cheese 2126 01:25:28,157 --> 01:25:29,676 that tasted like it was created by the devil 2127 01:25:29,779 --> 01:25:31,988 in the deepest, darkest pits of hell. 2128 01:25:32,092 --> 01:25:35,371 But I've also eaten absolutely amazing vegan cheese. 2129 01:25:35,475 --> 01:25:38,443 And environmentally, vegan cheese has a significantly lower 2130 01:25:38,547 --> 01:25:41,032 climate impact to that of dairy cheese. 2131 01:25:41,136 --> 01:25:42,999 But aside from the environmental impacts, 2132 01:25:43,103 --> 01:25:45,209 I know very little about the cheese and dairy industry, 2133 01:25:45,312 --> 01:25:47,763 despite eating copious amounts of it as a youngster. 2134 01:25:47,866 --> 01:25:50,248 The only thing I do know is that cows would explode 2135 01:25:50,352 --> 01:25:51,870 if we didn't milk them, 2136 01:25:51,974 --> 01:25:53,803 because nine people have actually said this to me 2137 01:25:53,907 --> 01:25:55,184 during my journey. 2138 01:25:55,288 --> 01:25:57,635 Turns out those nine people were misinformed. 2139 01:25:57,738 --> 01:25:59,361 Much like humans, cats, and dogs, 2140 01:25:59,464 --> 01:26:01,915 cows also produce milk after giving birth. 2141 01:26:02,018 --> 01:26:04,366 So, what else does the dairy industry not tell us? 2142 01:26:19,691 --> 01:26:24,696 [cow mooing] [gentle somber music] 2143 01:26:31,945 --> 01:26:35,224 [cow mooing continues] 2144 01:26:45,234 --> 01:26:48,203 [cow mooing] 2145 01:26:48,306 --> 01:26:50,170 - [Tom] I was shocked to learn that 1/2 of all beef 2146 01:26:50,274 --> 01:26:51,723 comes from the dairy industry. 2147 01:26:52,690 --> 01:26:54,519 [cow mooing] 2148 01:26:54,623 --> 01:26:57,557 But if the mothers need to give birth to produce cow milk, 2149 01:26:57,660 --> 01:26:58,972 what happens to their babies? 2150 01:27:26,068 --> 01:27:28,933 - [Tom] Hypothetically, let's pretend we stop this. 2151 01:27:29,036 --> 01:27:30,659 That cheese isn't a thing anymore. 2152 01:27:30,762 --> 01:27:32,074 Neither are slaughter dealers, 2153 01:27:32,177 --> 01:27:34,283 rounding up baby calves for a few quid. 2154 01:27:34,387 --> 01:27:35,422 And that the majority of land used 2155 01:27:35,526 --> 01:27:36,527 for cheese production is rewilded. 2156 01:27:36,630 --> 01:27:38,322 What would happen to the farmers? 2157 01:27:39,702 --> 01:27:41,842 I think there's a misconception that vegans hate farmers. 2158 01:27:41,946 --> 01:27:44,466 From my experience, that couldn't be further from the truth. 2159 01:27:44,569 --> 01:27:46,364 My uncle was a farmer, and I liked him a lot. 2160 01:27:46,468 --> 01:27:48,021 He was incredibly hard-working, 2161 01:27:48,124 --> 01:27:50,644 and frankly, he had very little to show for the long 2162 01:27:50,748 --> 01:27:52,543 and enduring work he undertook, 2163 01:27:52,646 --> 01:27:54,407 like most farmers I've spoken to. 2164 01:27:54,510 --> 01:27:56,167 So, what could a shift to a plant-based diet 2165 01:27:56,271 --> 01:27:59,481 and the mass rewilding of land mean for farmers right now? 2166 01:27:59,584 --> 01:28:01,897 - I see opportunities here to bring people into farming, 2167 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:03,450 not drive them out. 2168 01:28:03,554 --> 01:28:05,797 We don't wanna see livestock farmers driven out of farming. 2169 01:28:05,901 --> 01:28:07,696 We wanna see them thrive and develop. 2170 01:28:07,799 --> 01:28:08,835 And change their systems to suit, 2171 01:28:08,938 --> 01:28:10,595 they're gonna needs, help, and support. 2172 01:28:10,699 --> 01:28:12,908 There's potentially a whole lot of new jobs 2173 01:28:13,011 --> 01:28:16,532 waiting to be had here as the economy changes. 2174 01:28:16,636 --> 01:28:18,810 Livestock doesn't produce any jobs, 2175 01:28:18,914 --> 01:28:21,019 hardly at all, certainly not on the farm. 2176 01:28:21,123 --> 01:28:22,400 - [Tom] Of course, we wouldn't need all the land 2177 01:28:22,504 --> 01:28:24,506 freed up from animal agriculture for arable farming, 2178 01:28:24,609 --> 01:28:26,162 so if it isn't suitable, 2179 01:28:26,266 --> 01:28:28,855 this is where the work of people like Randal comes in. 2180 01:28:28,958 --> 01:28:30,684 We pay trillions a year in taxpayers' money 2181 01:28:30,788 --> 01:28:33,308 to prop up a broken food and farming system 2182 01:28:33,411 --> 01:28:34,688 when that money could instead be used 2183 01:28:34,792 --> 01:28:36,552 to work with the local farmers, communities, 2184 01:28:36,656 --> 01:28:39,866 and Indigenous people to work together with their land 2185 01:28:39,969 --> 01:28:42,972 to help fight the climate emergency on the ground. 2186 01:28:43,076 --> 01:28:45,216 If more of us move towards a plant-based diet 2187 01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:46,942 and the land no longer needed for farming 2188 01:28:47,045 --> 01:28:49,945 is returned back to nature, we'll be able to remove billions 2189 01:28:50,048 --> 01:28:52,879 of metric tons of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. 2190 01:28:52,982 --> 01:28:54,846 And from an employment perspective, 2191 01:28:54,950 --> 01:28:56,607 one study found that rewilding projects 2192 01:28:56,710 --> 01:28:58,574 have resulted in a 54% increase 2193 01:28:58,678 --> 01:29:00,680 in full-time equivalent jobs. 2194 01:29:00,783 --> 01:29:03,683 Simply put, removing farmland and giving it back to nature 2195 01:29:03,786 --> 01:29:06,548 doesn't lose jobs; it creates them. 2196 01:29:06,651 --> 01:29:08,826 Then there's completely new sectors opening up. 2197 01:29:08,929 --> 01:29:11,794 Innovations that are creating more jobs, more opportunities, 2198 01:29:11,898 --> 01:29:14,521 like cultivated meats or fermented proteins. 2199 01:29:14,625 --> 01:29:17,662 Solar Foods in Finland is creating what they call solein, 2200 01:29:17,766 --> 01:29:19,733 a protein out of thin air. 2201 01:29:19,837 --> 01:29:21,735 It's not from a plant or an animal; 2202 01:29:21,839 --> 01:29:23,737 it originates from a single-cell organism 2203 01:29:23,841 --> 01:29:25,981 that's put through a fermentation process. 2204 01:29:26,084 --> 01:29:27,948 - What we're trying to achieve as a company 2205 01:29:28,052 --> 01:29:30,468 is to disconnect food production from agriculture 2206 01:29:30,572 --> 01:29:34,127 and go really to the root cause of problems 2207 01:29:34,230 --> 01:29:37,717 in what comes to food production on this planet. 2208 01:29:37,820 --> 01:29:41,237 The environmental impact of solein compared to meat 2209 01:29:41,341 --> 01:29:45,966 is about 1% and about 1/10 compared to that of plants. 2210 01:29:46,070 --> 01:29:47,520 - [Tom] I do wonder how people will react 2211 01:29:47,623 --> 01:29:49,004 to this sort of innovation. 2212 01:29:49,107 --> 01:29:52,939 - Ultimately, it's the taste and texture, convenience, 2213 01:29:53,042 --> 01:29:55,873 experience that is a decisive factor. 2214 01:29:55,976 --> 01:29:59,532 - I'm not gonna lie, that's exactly what I wanted to know. 2215 01:30:05,676 --> 01:30:08,920 Mm! 2216 01:30:09,024 --> 01:30:10,059 That's good. 2217 01:30:10,163 --> 01:30:11,233 I felt like I was in a science-fiction movie. 2218 01:30:11,336 --> 01:30:12,752 Mm, that's really good. 2219 01:30:12,855 --> 01:30:15,513 But there was no denying it looked and tasted amazing. 2220 01:30:15,617 --> 01:30:17,204 The climate benefits are undeniable, 2221 01:30:17,308 --> 01:30:18,930 and along with the transition for livestock farmers 2222 01:30:19,034 --> 01:30:21,864 to a more environmentally friendly form of arable farming 2223 01:30:21,968 --> 01:30:23,832 or to land managers paid to rewild, 2224 01:30:23,935 --> 01:30:25,799 this alternative fat and protein sector 2225 01:30:25,903 --> 01:30:28,630 could create an endless possibility of foods and jobs. 2226 01:30:29,838 --> 01:30:32,012 Climate change, the environmental crisis, 2227 01:30:32,116 --> 01:30:33,704 the sixth mass extinction, 2228 01:30:33,807 --> 01:30:36,085 the collapse of our planet's life support systems, 2229 01:30:36,189 --> 01:30:37,432 however, you wanna phrase it, 2230 01:30:37,535 --> 01:30:38,847 it's a complex issue that cannot be fixed 2231 01:30:38,950 --> 01:30:41,608 by dealing with industries in isolation. 2232 01:30:41,712 --> 01:30:43,058 If a middle-aged man has a heart attack 2233 01:30:43,161 --> 01:30:46,199 and he smokes, drinks excessively, is stressed, 2234 01:30:46,302 --> 01:30:49,305 doesn't exercise, and eats poorly, then what caused it? 2235 01:30:49,409 --> 01:30:50,755 We should think of the chronic disease 2236 01:30:50,859 --> 01:30:53,137 our planet has right now in the same way. 2237 01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,208 But where we have little say in how we currently heat 2238 01:30:55,311 --> 01:30:56,589 or power our homes, 2239 01:30:56,692 --> 01:30:58,038 we do have much more control over the foods we eat 2240 01:30:58,142 --> 01:31:00,489 and the environmental impact that comes with it. 2241 01:31:00,593 --> 01:31:02,560 Which is why the single biggest thing we can do 2242 01:31:02,664 --> 01:31:04,217 to reduce our environmental impact 2243 01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,116 is to reduce or remove animal-based products from our diet. 2244 01:31:08,946 --> 01:31:11,949 So, let me get this straight: we forcibly impregnate a sow. 2245 01:31:12,052 --> 01:31:14,676 When she gives birth, we barely allow her to move, 2246 01:31:14,779 --> 01:31:16,263 whilst we fan her piglets up for a few weeks 2247 01:31:16,367 --> 01:31:19,543 until they're taken away and the process for her repeats. 2248 01:31:19,646 --> 01:31:21,199 Once removed, 2249 01:31:21,303 --> 01:31:22,546 we spend a few more weeks fattening the piglets up. 2250 01:31:22,649 --> 01:31:25,169 And it's a similar process for other farm animals, 2251 01:31:25,272 --> 01:31:28,241 one which requires huge amounts of water and feed, 2252 01:31:28,344 --> 01:31:30,277 which a large chunk is grown in parts of the world 2253 01:31:30,381 --> 01:31:31,900 using deforested land, 2254 01:31:32,003 --> 01:31:34,350 thus increasing our risk of zoonotic diseases 2255 01:31:34,454 --> 01:31:36,180 and releasing carbon into the atmosphere. 2256 01:31:37,353 --> 01:31:38,493 All around the world, 2257 01:31:38,596 --> 01:31:40,184 these animals are pumped with antibiotics, 2258 01:31:40,287 --> 01:31:42,980 a large chunk of which are vital for human health, 2259 01:31:43,083 --> 01:31:46,052 creating a greater risk of death from antibiotic resistance, 2260 01:31:46,155 --> 01:31:48,779 which is already killing millions of people. 2261 01:31:48,882 --> 01:31:51,229 The manure from the animals damages the soil, 2262 01:31:51,333 --> 01:31:53,680 runs off into the rivers, polluting our water, 2263 01:31:53,784 --> 01:31:55,648 and affects human health. 2264 01:31:55,751 --> 01:31:58,340 When it makes it into the sea, it forms dead zones, 2265 01:31:58,443 --> 01:32:00,687 killing further planet aquatic life. 2266 01:32:00,791 --> 01:32:03,587 Parts of the ocean not affected are frequently overfished, 2267 01:32:03,690 --> 01:32:05,830 resulting in millions of additional sea life killed 2268 01:32:05,934 --> 01:32:07,418 accidentally as bycatch 2269 01:32:07,522 --> 01:32:09,696 while simultaneously damaging the ocean floor 2270 01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,596 and releasing even more greenhouse gas emissions. 2271 01:32:12,699 --> 01:32:13,942 While all that's going on, 2272 01:32:14,045 --> 01:32:15,702 billions of land animals around the world 2273 01:32:15,806 --> 01:32:16,979 are sent to slaughter, 2274 01:32:17,083 --> 01:32:19,741 in units hidden away from the public's view, 2275 01:32:19,844 --> 01:32:21,294 in countries where not a single one 2276 01:32:21,397 --> 01:32:24,504 has been awarded an A rating for its farming practices. 2277 01:32:24,608 --> 01:32:25,712 These animals are killed in ways 2278 01:32:25,816 --> 01:32:27,783 that are deemed humane by governments. 2279 01:32:29,164 --> 01:32:30,786 The meat is then sold to the public, 2280 01:32:30,890 --> 01:32:32,270 of which a huge percentage 2281 01:32:32,374 --> 01:32:34,479 has been proven to be infected with different bacteria, 2282 01:32:34,583 --> 01:32:36,481 increasing the risk of foodborne illness. 2283 01:32:36,585 --> 01:32:38,518 When it finally reaches our plate, 2284 01:32:38,622 --> 01:32:40,037 and in a world where one in four people 2285 01:32:40,140 --> 01:32:42,315 now die from a poor diet, we get to eat a number of foods 2286 01:32:42,418 --> 01:32:45,421 that are classified as type one or two carcinogens. 2287 01:32:45,525 --> 01:32:46,837 And even the foods that aren't 2288 01:32:46,940 --> 01:32:49,149 are proven to have a far higher environmental impact 2289 01:32:49,253 --> 01:32:51,151 than their plant-based alternatives, 2290 01:32:51,255 --> 01:32:52,981 thus contributing enormously 2291 01:32:54,016 --> 01:32:56,260 to the destruction of a planet we, 2292 01:32:58,849 --> 01:33:00,057 and our loved ones, 2293 01:33:02,128 --> 01:33:03,405 call home. 2294 01:33:03,508 --> 01:33:07,478 [deep contemplative music] 2295 01:33:07,582 --> 01:33:10,619 What the actual fuck? 2296 01:33:14,727 --> 01:33:17,592 [footsteps tapping] 2297 01:33:17,695 --> 01:33:19,697 [door clunking] 2298 01:33:19,801 --> 01:33:21,526 [door slams] [intense dramatic music] 2299 01:33:21,630 --> 01:33:23,701 Sophia's turn to deadlift. 2300 01:33:23,805 --> 01:33:26,014 On her third attempt, she's going for a lift 2301 01:33:26,117 --> 01:33:27,671 that will not only give her the title if she gets it, 2302 01:33:27,774 --> 01:33:29,845 but she'll also smash 2303 01:33:29,949 --> 01:33:32,192 her own British deadlift record in the process, 2304 01:33:32,296 --> 01:33:36,852 with an enormous lift of 237.5 kilograms. 2305 01:33:36,956 --> 01:33:38,543 - [Announcer] If she gets this, 2306 01:33:38,647 --> 01:33:41,339 this will be the biggest deadlift 2307 01:33:41,443 --> 01:33:45,827 in British powerlifting history for a woman, okay? 2308 01:33:45,930 --> 01:33:48,830 So, no big thing, no big stakes, 2309 01:33:48,933 --> 01:33:51,246 but this is where it goes down. 2310 01:33:51,349 --> 01:33:53,800 237.5 kilos 2311 01:33:53,904 --> 01:33:56,285 on the bar for Sophia Ellis! 2312 01:33:56,389 --> 01:34:00,048 [rousing orchestral music] 2313 01:34:08,712 --> 01:34:13,130 [rousing orchestral music continues] 2314 01:34:21,932 --> 01:34:26,212 [rousing orchestral music continues] 2315 01:34:31,527 --> 01:34:34,323 [audience yelling] 2316 01:34:36,532 --> 01:34:39,432 [audience cheering] 2317 01:34:42,021 --> 01:34:44,575 [announcer drowned out by audience applauding and cheering] 2318 01:34:44,679 --> 01:34:47,474 [Sophia screams] [audience cheering] 2319 01:34:47,578 --> 01:34:50,650 You have just won this in three! 2320 01:34:50,754 --> 01:34:55,206 [rousing orchestral music continues] 2321 01:35:02,731 --> 01:35:07,184 [rousing orchestral music continues] 2322 01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:11,947 [crowd cheering] [crowd applauding] 2323 01:35:12,051 --> 01:35:14,191 - [Bystander] Whoo-hoo! 2324 01:35:16,055 --> 01:35:17,194 Whoo! 2325 01:35:17,297 --> 01:35:18,574 [group cheering] 2326 01:35:18,678 --> 01:35:20,231 - [Tom] Thank you. 2327 01:35:26,617 --> 01:35:27,998 - It was her who signed him up. 2328 01:35:28,101 --> 01:35:31,449 - 84 years old, he's done this race today. 2329 01:35:32,416 --> 01:35:33,210 [crowd cheering] 2330 01:35:33,313 --> 01:35:36,075 Doing press-ups at the age of 84. 2331 01:35:37,214 --> 01:35:38,629 - [Announcer] Sophia Ellis! 2332 01:35:38,733 --> 01:35:43,807 [audience cheering] [audience applauding] 2333 01:35:44,359 --> 01:35:46,637 [group laughing] 2334 01:35:46,741 --> 01:35:47,569 - Hey! - Yeah, mate. 2335 01:35:47,672 --> 01:35:48,743 - Cheers. 2336 01:35:48,846 --> 01:35:50,089 - Well done, mate. - Thanks, man. 2337 01:35:50,192 --> 01:35:51,228 - It was a pleasure doing that with you. [laughs] 2338 01:35:51,331 --> 01:35:52,298 - Yeah. 2339 01:35:52,401 --> 01:35:53,609 Oh, oh! 2340 01:35:53,713 --> 01:35:55,266 Yeah, Chan. Hello! 2341 01:35:59,754 --> 01:36:02,929 [phone line ringing] 2342 01:36:04,966 --> 01:36:06,001 [light uplifting music] 2343 01:36:06,105 --> 01:36:07,865 - [Tom's Mum] Hello? 2344 01:36:07,969 --> 01:36:10,799 - Hey, Mum. It's Tom again. 2345 01:36:10,903 --> 01:36:14,009 Really, I just wanted to call and say thank you. 2346 01:36:14,113 --> 01:36:15,286 Thank you for everything. 2347 01:36:17,530 --> 01:36:21,534 [light uplifting music continues] 2348 01:36:29,749 --> 01:36:33,995 [light uplifting music continues] 2349 01:36:36,652 --> 01:36:38,344 - Well, this is up to us. 2350 01:36:38,447 --> 01:36:40,691 Whether we turn it around or not is up to us. 2351 01:36:40,795 --> 01:36:41,899 It's up to our commitment; 2352 01:36:42,003 --> 01:36:44,660 it's up to the numbers we can mobilize. 2353 01:36:44,764 --> 01:36:48,423 It's up to whether we can make sure our voices become louder 2354 01:36:48,526 --> 01:36:51,391 than the lobbyists for the old legacy industries. 2355 01:36:51,495 --> 01:36:53,083 And whether we can promote 2356 01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:58,157 and press for the new industries and new change 2357 01:36:58,260 --> 01:36:59,848 and new ways of producing food, 2358 01:36:59,952 --> 01:37:03,162 which are essential to protecting the living world. 2359 01:37:05,681 --> 01:37:08,477 - [Tom] So, can we turn this around? 2360 01:37:10,410 --> 01:37:12,343 - [George] We can turn this around.